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Shoud weed be legal

yes
21 (55.3%)
no
17 (44.7%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: May 11, 2007, 04:07:19 PM

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y00tz

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 08:50:27 AM »
Uhh, all the marijuana would come in from out of country - Afghanistan, South America etc.  Sure their economies would be booming, but now instead of spending money on American merchandise people are buying foreign drugs.  The lawsuits over laced pot would flood the courts, and the average American dairy farm will now be growing pot, and lots of it.  Grass is green, and weed means green.

lekky

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2007, 10:02:45 AM »
maybe you guys should read up on holland?

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2007, 03:41:31 PM »
I say yes.  I think it should be under the same enforcement as alcohol.  Regulating how much you can grow and consume.

TinMan

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2007, 10:31:22 PM »
Skater, you can't compare weed to heroin, it has way different effects than weed. It's basically a double dose of morphine, which just like too much morphine can kill you, and even when it's clean it does damage to your body just like morphine. Have fun urinating after a couple shots.

No drug should be smoked in public, other people get it in them and they don't want it.

I'd be fine with it being sold instead of cigarettes or something, keep the stoners indoors though and don't let them drive.

jitspoe

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 01:19:34 AM »
... good rap.
What's that?  I've never heard of it.

Eiii

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2007, 02:39:06 AM »
how would legalizing weed boom the economy?

If it were legal more people would use it and then the government would tax it and there is you boom.

Like... CIGARETTES?! I see no boom from those.

Spook

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2007, 02:44:20 AM »
They did until the health risks were discovered.

loial21

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2007, 06:48:35 AM »
"There is no money on taxing popular habit forming comestables via the interstate commerce act?" Is that what you are saying Y2J? awahhh?  :o

Get an education? Ok ed jew cate meh. (waits)


Moving on...
Any amount (even water) of said subject can kill. Even my posts.


People should be allowed to do what they want until they die from it. If its non-violent and they are a functioning, productive, tax paying member of society. If there not, f-em off the planet.

Other people's belief's are an infringement on MY inalienable right to persue MY happiness.

SO be quiet OR GTFO if you dont like freedom!

Yeah!

Dey Tuk R Jarbs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSb1Orv_shE


P!nk

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Y2J

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2007, 11:08:00 AM »
I'm not saying there's not money to be made, I'm saying it won't boom the economy.
If you want to boom the economy find a way to get gas back under 2 dollars.. (let alone under 3/4 now) and end the war. Better yet, lessen the gap between the wealthy and the poor.
None are in the near future.
Taxing pot would give minimal increases to a state budget, that probably gets wasted on a sub par public school system, and awareness ads against the product they're taxing.

S8NSSON

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2007, 11:42:12 AM »
OK...lol
I do smoke weed. Not as much as I once did, but on occasion.

The war on drugs, much of which is focussed on pot, would changed.
The cost of dealing with illegal importing (smuggling) of pot would drop.
The cost of drug enforcement would drop.
The cost of processing convicted pot offenders would drop.
The cost of housing prisoners convected of pot offenses would drop.
A legal market would be established and taxed, including internationally imported weed.

It's not physically addicting, but it can be psychologically addicting.
It is a carcinogen, and anything burned and inhaled is bad for you, but...
Pot can be used (THC extracted) without burning it to get the desired effect.
As a carcinogen, it's less harmful than smoking cigarettes.
As a recreational drug, it's less harmful than alcohol.
As a medicinal drug there are great benefits we know about, and maybe even more benefits we don't know about.
Hemp from the pot plant is very useful.

It should be legalized.
If they don't legalize pot, at the very least alcohol should also be illegal also.

IMHO though, as has been said earlier here, no government should be able to make my choice of what I put into my body as long as i'm not hurting anyone else.

Anyone that drinks alcohol and thinks weed should remain illegal is a hypocrite and I despise you for that.

I remember the first joint I ever smoked at 13 years old. My friends were already smoking weed, but I held out for a while. I finally, because of a family argument, said intercourse it. I went up to the grocery store, helped some people carry their groceries to their car for tips, and made a couple dollars. I found one of the grocery store shelf stockers that I knew had weed and bought two joints for $1.00 each. I th4en found some friends and we went behind the grocery store a blazed up. We all had fancy motoX bicycles and I could barely ride. I remember going into the icecream shop to get an icecream and thinking everyone knew I was high. Thus began a new life with my new friend, POT!!!

WarWulf

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2007, 12:35:00 PM »
A lonely teenage daydream,
Of things I just might be,
A surreal kind of thinking,
Keeps on drifting in on me,
My twisted body is lifeless,
Not so their twisted minds,
Peace through power their motto,
Power through peace their crime,

Product of our environment [x8],

Maybe one day they will legalize weed,
In the year TWO 'G' the planet could be deceased,
We plead to the fleece while we're beggin' on our knees,
In our hometown Cali with bears and green trees,
Birds and the bees, hot sand on the beach,
Shells in the sea and I'm living in peace,
Like a dog on a leash locked up with no key,
I gotta smoke under cover, Motherintercourse the police,

Yeah, see the matching hand and they're robbing from the hat,
The laws an illusion to symbolize that,
Putting us in jail for the ?? tax,
I can see the wires in the levitating act,
I can hear the lies and they're calling them facts,
I can see the bars and they're lookin all cracked,
I read between the lines but the lines are all cracked,
I can feel the knife turning in my back,

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

You are a sacred being of light,
Projected into reality for a purpose,
Demand the right to your moment,
In this holographic gift with no rules, no borders,
Except for those who you choose to accept and live by,

Abolish government means nothing to me,
Forget about god, he's not here to see,
We live by a system, a perfect mold,
People perfect people who are poor and old,
Lies were spent on a sad defense,
They said we're lookin for a method in this world ??,
Presidents are named,
Presidents are labeled highest man on the government table,

America, land of the free,
Free to the power of the people in uniform [x2],

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

Society, intercourse it!
I've had enough!
The system's full of crooks, straight up corrupt,
You look like a decoy by the knife a duck,
And your money keeps em smokin on a BC Bluff,
You're caught up in the headlights of my V-Dub bus,
TSOL and the Kings about to even things up,
Your birds will take all the air out the sky,
Bring em down to our level,
You can work, can't hide,

Product of our environment [x8]

A lonely teenage daydream,
Of things I just might be,
A surreal kind of thinking,
Keeps on drifting in on me,
My twisted body is lifeless,
Not so their twisted minds,
Peace through power their motto,
Power through peace their crime,

The government keeps tight control over the population,
While the schools teach the kids restricted education,
Murder, Rape, Sex, Underage prostitution,
They got the war on pot, they got the wrong solution,

I wake and I bake, nowhere to escape,
Livin' life in a tank they invade my space,
Betrayed full of hate while they're shootin all blanks,
Society's lost in a paranoid state,

It's the illusion of ownership, It's take what you can get,
The banks are the loan sharks and everyone's in debt,
And if you get ahead how quickly you forget,
You're hanging from a burning rope without a safety net,
They tax you when you sell,
They tax you when you buy,
They take half when you live,
They take half when you die,
These are the lies that they are stating as facts,
I can see the wires of the levitating act,

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

How would life be if the world smoked weed?
Guaranteed there'd be peace not greed,
See, it's hell,
Living in a cell,
Legalize the plant only time will tell,

I'm glad that I can read,
I'm glad that I can write,
I read their intercoursein bullexcrement,
Every single night,
When off in my head went a little intercoursein light,
It told me what was wrong it told me what was right,
World bank-Power and control,
Issuing the money and they're dollin' out the roles,
Charging what they want to with the money, the control,
Living in their nightmare, giving them your soul!

blaa

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2007, 12:37:38 PM »
didnt read the thread

No! Are you meddling 14 years old slaughter?

Eiii

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2007, 01:39:09 PM »
S8N: THC stays in the system and effects it for much longer than alcohol. Much, much longer. I think laws concerning alcohol should be stricter, and any inhaled version of a drug should be outlawed, due to the whole lung cancer thing. Unfortunately, current addictions and lobbyists will prevail.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2007, 01:44:13 PM »
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S8NSSON

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2007, 03:41:38 PM »
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S8N: THC stays in the system and effects it for much longer than alcohol. Much, much longer.

Um...and? Effects it how? Ok, it stays in the system. Are you saying that because it stays in the system longer than alcohol that it's more dangerous than alcohol? Not true. Alcohol is flat out dangerous. THAT IS FACT. Prove to me the dangers in marijuana?

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I think laws concerning alcohol should be stricter, and any inhaled version of a drug should be outlawed, due to the whole lung cancer thing.
That is absurd. First off, what lung cancer I decide to throw into my body by smoking cigarettes is my business.

I may have been wrong in stating that pot was a carcinogen in my previous post.
Have a read here...
http://www.webmd.com/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikely-to-cause-cancer

And if that's not good enough, how about marijuana actually slowing the growth rate of lung cancer?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Cigs and booze are known carcinogens.
So your absurd statement is even doubly absurd.
BAN cigs and booz, and legalize pot.

So we already know there are a number of great medicinal uses for THC (the active ingredient in marijuana). Imagine what possible new value we could find from the drug if it were made legal and open for mass study!

Learn the facts about pot before you make brain washed judgments.
I don't know a whole lot, but I do know enough to know when someone is arguing against marijuana with lies and propaganda as their arsenal. This isn't 3rd grade, Officer Friendly LIED to you about marijuana, and Reefer Madness was bullfeces.

jitspoe

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2007, 04:35:10 PM »
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I th4en found some friends and we went behind the grocery store a blazed up. We all had fancy motoX bicycles and I could barely ride.
So marijuana impaired your ability to ride a bike?  What if you were driving something bigger?  A car?  Truck?  Bus?  Heavy construction machinery?  Your impairment could lead to fatal injuries.  No, that's not any different from alcohol, but look how many people are killed or injured from DUI accidents.  Do we really need to make that number increase?

Life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness.  When your persuit of happiness threatens my life, we have a problem.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/NIDA_Notes/NNVol11N1/Marijuana.html

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People should be allowed to do what they want until they die from it. If its non-violent and they are a functioning, productive, tax paying member of society. If there not, f-em off the planet.
Marijuana decreases productivity.  It also makes you more apathetic, which could lead to job loss, and ceasing to become a functioning, productive, tax paying member of society.

I honestly think this country would be a whole lot better if recreational drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes ceased to exist (or at least the desire for them did).  People would actually go out and do something instead of just "getting wasted".  All the resources that get wasted for damaging various organs and shortening lifespans could be used to produce useful things, like more food, or perhaps organic fuel.

Naturally that can't "just happen", though.  Outlawing alcohol has been tried.  People who are desperate will be forced into a life of crime to support a once-legal habit.  I think the major problem there, though, was the fact that it was once legal.  Why should we take a step backwards and make yet another problem-causing substance legal, just to realise the mistake, make it illegal again, and cause even more problems?

S8NSSON

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2007, 08:16:40 PM »
A 13 year old smoking pot for the first time in his life and fumbling around while riding his bike behind a grocery store can not be equated to your what ifs.

NO PERSON should do all those things you so ridiculously try to make your points with while under the influence of many things including some prescription drugs.

What I do responsibly while not harming others is my business.

Again, the uneducated speaking out on a subject they have no experience with or idea about. Read up on your loads of biased information. You have that right.

Eiii

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2007, 08:55:40 PM »
What I do responsibly while not harming others is my business.

That's true, but I'm afraid weed doesn't promote responsibility.
Again, the uneducated speaking out on a subject they have no experience with or idea about. Read up on your loads of biased information. You have that right.

And you're the unbiased side? You're the stoner here. We're the clean ones. Each side is going to see the other as biased. Your seeing yourself as unbiased took you down a few notches in my book.

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Re: Should weed be legal
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2007, 09:10:28 PM »
There's nothing wrong with smoking weed.  Its just something to do because of how it makes you feel, like alcohol, there are pro's and con's to it but i mean it is less harmful that cigarettes.