Programming

[Apocalypse]

So which is better and also where would I download them?

[Cobo]

Man, I sure do hate when my Visual Studio is trapped and cant get out.

[Apocalypse]

Man, I sure do hate when my Visual Studio is trapped and cant get out.

Ummm... I know I'm new to Programming but was that a joke or does it get stuck sometimes.

[Cobo]

Ummm... I know I'm new to Programming but was that a joke or does it get stuck sometimes.

Bad joke

I would go with Visual Studio if I were you.

[Phenax]

Try C using the GCC compiler

[Cobo]

Try C using the GCC compiler

That would work, but an IDE (Integrated Development Enviroment i.e Visual Studio) would really be better.

[cusoman]

what Apocalypse needs is an easy environment, and most compilers/ides not counting Visual Studio are rather scary and intimidating. By the way i just downloaded C# 2005 express and am learning to write hello world as we speak!!!! Its really similar to c++ so for apocalypse i recommend this. Also Visual Basic cuz its just the best period. XD

[Cobo]

Hm, forgtot about this:
http://www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com/
Its like basic, but with some C stuff.

Its pretty simple and easy.

[Phenax]

Try C using the GCC compiler

That would work, but an IDE (Integrated Development Enviroment i.e Visual Studio) would really be better.

Weird. Visual studio and such drove me away from programming. Only did I pick it up after I realized it was as easy as a text editor, compiler, and possibly a few other tools for bigger projects (GNU Make)..

[cusoman]

well then. i guess its personal preference. since visual studio was the first i saw of programming, thats how i think compilers should look. its confordable. whatever floats ur boat i guess 

[lekky]

Start out with C# or Java.

and... Apocolypse doesn't care about half the excrement you guys are talking about. Stop trying to show us how big your male organ of copulation is and help the poor kid out.

[Deranged]

Actually for JUST starting out I would recommend a more loose, easy to pick up language that teaches good habits(Like python) something where it's easy to get 2d/3d junk up and running(pyGame, pyOGRE)

good luck

[Apocalypse]

Ok I think I'll go with Visiual studio anyone know where to download the express version?

[y00tz]

Visual Studio 2005: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/aa975050.aspx

2008 Beta 2: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/future/bb421473.aspx

[KiLo]

I tried to find you a link but Microsoft was leading me through a maze so i just quit.

Just look on Micorsoft's website to get it.

Edit: Somehow y00tz found it.

[Apocalypse]

Thanks, guys I really appreciate all the help

[Cobo]

I tried to find you a link but Microsoft was leading me through a maze so i just quit.

Just look on Micorsoft's website to get it.

Edit: Somehow y00tz found it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Visual+Studio+2005+express&btnG=Search