Author Topic: Jitspoe Ignores (Read 4471 times)

loial21 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2005, 12:30:12 AM »

You completly ignored me tonight before I kicked you. Why? sorry not more detailed

I wanted this night to be special for you Jitspoe, why becuase the largest participation in dp in a long long whine happened tonight on his map that aura changed to and a lot of ss here is one

jitspoe · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2005, 02:18:03 AM »

As I mentioned in the other thread, I did not see your comment or you never made it. Attached is a console dump from the demo.

Edit: but gj on getting lots of players.

loial21 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2005, 03:01:37 AM »

Jitspoe it was about 2nd round or 3rd on "Antioch" that I noticed "testing" . Besides knowing you as that name "testing" and talked to what I assumed was you, I said hello to "Jitspoet" several times and mentioned your name as being here whilst other player were asking where you were. YOU said nuthing which further drew my attention as described as "not acting as blah blah blah" (ei ei o thanks for the back up on your quote)

I understand you need for subterfuge but respond to me in a way i know its you,when your gaming with me and not seconds later after I have kicked and warn clans about spamming me chat ...thus my my "toes, socks" comment. It was a reference to "Mr Deeds" butler very sneaky. God your acute.

I have made numerous complaints about one player = one email address = one login, just as you have complained that I was equal to snipen, that hurts. Also hardly compairable. Smell my toes and expect a payment late AUG not early sept.

*edit not a good job on getting players, it takes god like maps with a good admin along with willing honest players to sustain a great game

Eiii · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2005, 09:57:42 AM »

Hm? How did I get dragged into this?

SdC.Captin · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2005, 01:25:47 PM »

i was there and loial did metion jits and i asked where like 2wice and then i figured testing was jits then i got of and talked to jits on aim...

Needle[tO] · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2005, 05:51:27 PM »

Yes I was also there Jitspoe your in fault

Needle[tO] · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2005, 05:57:18 PM »

Wait, Were fighting over a guy getting kicked out of a server. guys comeon, shake hands and be friends

loial21 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2005, 06:16:23 PM »

I will hump to make up

**EDIT
Thanks for the back up. I really tried my best to maintain friendly relations with all. Big of yall to say somthing. It was a mistake on all parties.

Eiii · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2005, 06:54:31 AM »

I don't see anything in the console dump, and I trust that more than I trust you.

jitspoe · « **Reply #11 on:** July 30, 2005, 02:30:43 PM »

Well, he probably said it before I started recording, but still that's like 20 minutes of gaming time in which nothing was said to me. But even if I did intentionally ignore you (which I didn't), it was to see how you behaved when I wasn't around.

loial21 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:34:33 PM »

JItspoe,

How many people saying I did mention your name before you belive it? Like I said before if you spent enough time on public server and asked public players they would tell you I am fair, fun to play with, a loyal friend ,dork instead of jumping on with a torrent and recording a demo. As smart as you are I would have never suspected a character flaw such as this from you!
If you have a problem or if your curious about something involving me ask like an adult and confront me instead of wasteing your time and mine doing something I would have expected by a 12 year old snot nose geek not a succesful college grad and generally fair person. I thought you had more important things to do?

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How you behave when I wasn't around

If this statement is close to being true, then why use a name I know you use? Now your making no sense bud.

Have I ever lied to you or misrepresent my self to you, lol do you know the humliation others have brought to me because I dont ask for complete control of the server I paid for (hobo being one among others soul dark all of GT and DB?)But, that is my fault for trying to be nice to someone who asked me to do him a favor.
By my actions in game and on this forum, you should know how I act. Piss Poor excuse wonder what your next one should be.
BTW funny your ignoring me is not on "your" demo. Remeber you mentioned "smell my feet"? You acknowledged that I mentioned your name on antioch?

*edit I am so pissed off that you would think for a second I lie or was not a good fair player/admin. I dont spend countless hours establishing a great online report with players that play public just for you to show up ignore me lag my server then accuse me of kicking you for doing good that is god dam sad jistpoe.

I have asked serveral questions you completely ingnored no matter your excuse. Granted if you took the time to anwser all my questions you would never get anything done.

Have a good week.

Jitspoe Ignores.

jitspoe · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2005, 01:15:26 AM »

How many times do I have to say I didn't see whatever it was you said to me before you believe it? And where did I say that I didn't believe you mentioned my name? I never did. I simply stated that you must have said it before I started recording and when I wasn't paying attention. Sorry I made such a huge deal out of this, but when I tried to talk to you on the server, you kept kicking me saying I was spoofing, so I posted it on the forum. And at that point I seriously thought you kicked me solely because I played really well two rounds in a row. I was really upset about it and wanted to make it clear to you that it was unacceptable behavior. You and I have different perspectives on what's fair. We've had various disagreements in the past, and you know this.

Perhaps you thought "fair" was "kick anybody who I think is cheating because they're doing really well." That's what it looked like from my perspective. From my perspective, I was kicked without warning for no reason other than I eliminated your team twice in a row, and I was very disappointed to see such behavior coming from you.

In the end it turns out you kicked me for not responding to something I didn't even see you say and for being laggy, which I still don't think is fair. You seem to have a thing against laggy players.

As for defending my name -- I wasn't even using my name and never made the claim to be jitspoe. Nobody even associated the name "testing" with "jitspoe" (except for you because of that one night which I completely forgot about). Testing isn't my name. There's no reason to defend it. It's just something I use from time to time if I'm testing out new stuff and don't want it to be credited to my name, especially if it gives me a significant advantage or disadvantage, or maybe if I just want to play without being bothered (as was the case the other night).

You have complete control of the server. You can execute any server command through rcon.

Based on your actions in the game and on the forum, I have no clue how you act, lol. Half the time I have trouble deciphering what it is you're trying to say, and sometimes you pull out random movie/tv quotes which often seem inappropriate, like "Why don't you suck my balls Mr. Garrison?" You may not have kicked me for doing well, but the fact remains that it wasn't until I did well that you kicked me. Why not earlier?

loial21 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2005, 03:00:23 AM »

Why not earlier? I was trying to be nice and fair clearly something foreign to your logic.

jk

Now knowing what you know I am a OK guy in your book?

I know I am sorry are you? Have you not stressed over as much as me, what do you have to lose. I am over it as far as it happening again. As long as you know that my server will be visual perfect in regards to game play which is what you want.

Don't be ignorant/obtuse regarding public play in regards to me. I m not being narcissistic, but in the last 4 years in the very least I have been the most active player. Why the delay and or late intrest in the way I behave. Jitspoe com on bud why the bother?

I had no proof that it was you despite my practically begging you to say it was you.

So In my rational I could not kick maybe you wanted to be left alone, using a more than one name you know that my point of view on this ? YES YOU DO

OK with that being said why test me? Talk about making someone who has a complex of spoofing and cheating more complexed. You never answered why you
UNTIL YOU LAGGED IN A MID 70 MPH FLIGHT stopped KILLED ME AND CONTINUED FLYING you made a complaint? I kicked others that night this is has been documented here by the person who to their credit said I was asking you to say something while using your "testing" ID and named you as Jitspoe, ok you did not see it. I

**edit you made a huge deal of this because you underestimated impresion of my HATERED for VISUAL interruption in game play first. With that said (meh there is a whole bunch more) why did you tell me there is no way to load maps to the server with rcon. If there is (I'm taking your word for this that there is not) a rcon command to load a map off my drive to the server please explain in lamans terms how, now that you know I am a Man of his word.

Besides the humiliation I endured for a favor you asked and money I paid thus pissing off the wife and the last blast from you on this forum. Knowing this, any map you want banned will never be put on rotation, but with limited trusted admins me and Aura for now would have control why not explain why we cant load maps onto server?

Thus Jitspoe Ignores....look at the following copout regarding the above statement.

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Based on your actions in the game and on the forum, I have no clue how you act, lol

Well regarding the DP forum who has spent more more time here in trying to explain the public players point of view and combine that with public game experience?

Jitspoe Ignores. *edit Loial wants blathered questions

jitspoe · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2005, 04:32:18 AM »

I'm sorry if I humiliated you, but you didn't believe it was me when I reconnected as jitspoe and asked why you kicked me, but instead kicked me again. What was I supposed to do? So public forums were probably not the most tactful way, but that's our most frequent form of communication, and I was very upset at the time. Plus I feel any unjust admin behavior should be put out in the open, and from my perspective it was an unjust kick as I've pointed out several times.

I wasn't testing you. It wasn't like I connected with the intention of seeing how far I could push you before you kicked me. I wasn't lagging on purpose. I didn't ignore you on purpose. I didn't hack or cheat. I wasn't spoofing. I didn't use any foul language or spam text. I was just playing (I thought) anonymously.

As for uploading maps, that goes beyond the scope of the paintball server (which you have full control over) and must be done externally. Besides, if I don't put an end to the crappy/one-path/unlit/unvised/box-o-cocker maps, who will?

As for stress, you are quite honestly the most stress-inducing individual in my life right now.

Edit: ok, I probably shouldn't say that. I've been a bit under-appreciative of your contributions, I think. So thanks for your honest attempts -- just go easy on the kicking for lag-related issues. Just because you have a fast connection right next to the server doesn't mean everyone does.

Btw, on that note, at some point we need to do some testing. I want to see how bad it was from your point of view. You say I froze for a full second, which is impossible. The client sends 3 backup commands, and since I was running at ~60 packets/sec, that would mean I'd have to drop 4 packets in a row before I started getting jerked around a lot from my perspective, and since I wasn't getting jerked all over the place, I couldn't have been dropping more than 3 packets in a row: 3/60th of a second, or 0.05 seconds. Perhaps there is something that can be done on the server side to smooth out laggy player movement. I think this would reduce your so-called visual "abnormalities" (which I still say are perfectly normal for a quake2-based game, and you should know this with as much as you play...).

loial21 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2005, 07:03:50 PM »

All true and agreeable. I am sorry this happened to you.
I consider it an honor to be the most stress inducing person you know, Now you know how my boss at work and my wife fe

Map choice should be my own but I owe it to you I feel to help ease these maps out. However our opinions are going to clash on some things like one path maps. That is a vauge definition, for instance Kersplat3 or 2 is a one path map with only one entence to flag so when then say its unplayable. Never I say its the on of the maps that hooked me blah blah yadda yadda, more to the points.

It has been agrued over and over, if some one is dishing out cash for a faster better connectoin which most of us are ( i have a connection that is provided by work but it does go down for maitence etc.. so as a back up I pay 44.95 for Time Warner 6mb tiered service which I am compensated for. Funny story SBC paying for Time Warner service. Before you ask DSL is not available in my condo's complex in the middle of San Antonio which is SBC headquarters ironic)anyhow most of us pay for high speed service for quality online gameing. As good player/admin edict on most servers that are payed for to allow HPBers to play but if they are effecting game what would be the most logical thing to do, to get rid of the bad game play? WARN FIRST

and ask for the person on dial up to re-dial to get a better connection or leave untill the can play with no lag. This brings up another point I am paying for the server, its not free. I want lag free gaming first despite the map that is why I am paying and not hosting it out my third pc.

A friend suggested to alter this web site for official stuff like evl servers, payed for servers that run updated and sanctioned settings. Then create a non official or "friendly" links for clan web sites . If you need more web space I will gladly donate the 50 megs time warner is giving me its not even being used. Just tell me what you need if your interested in the web space for what ever its my gift to you its not being used.

jitspoe · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2005, 07:09:41 PM »

The ev1 servers can actually run web stuff, but I didn't bother setting anything up. I still need to register a domain name for it.

Anyway, yeah, warn first.

We'll try to work out some better methods for warning. Take a look at the time-out thread. I'll also see if I can find ways to reduce the player lag, but I probably won't be able to get to that for a while and it may require a protocol rewrite.

loial21 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2005, 07:24:52 PM »

Will you need my web space for anything its a shame to waste it.

jitspoe · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2005, 10:29:30 PM »

Well, there's only so much webspace I can use -- I've got planetquake, dpball.com, sf.net, ev1, and probably some roadrunner webspace, too. You could always offer your webspace to clans so they can make clan sites, I suppose...

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