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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: Riddick on January 03, 2008, 03:21:17 PM

Title: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Riddick on January 03, 2008, 03:21:17 PM
Just want to see if anyone believes the committee is doing their job right.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee?
Post by: DaRkNeSS on January 03, 2008, 03:22:23 PM
Can't say that I am.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 03:24:25 PM
i voted yes, because let's face it, the committee ROX!
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: lekky on January 03, 2008, 03:25:28 PM
If you are not satisfied, why not? Thats the only way we can improve this thing. The Committee will stay around no matter what, simply because Jitspoe does not have the time to do everything himself.

Thus, to improve The Committee must know what to improve!
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Clipz on January 03, 2008, 03:26:24 PM
I am... i don't see a problem with it.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: DaRkNeSS on January 03, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
If you are not satisfied, why not? Thats the only way we can improve this thing. The Committee will stay around no matter what, simply because Jitspoe does not have the time to do everything himself.

Thus, to improve The Committee must know what to improve!

Yeah Lekky, like the last few weeks of topics hasn't shown you.  Perhaps you should read all the posts that have been deleted.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Bling on January 03, 2008, 03:31:12 PM
With every committee I think it's about the same.  You have those members of it that have favorites and they get treated differently if they are caught doing something that is against the rules.  So I can't really say I don't like them or I do like them.
Some decissions are good, then there are the not so good ones.  Can't complain really, I would like to see new members of the committee though,  Like in politics possibly a new election?  Already a topic on this I know, so it's just whatever. :P 
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: nightryder on January 03, 2008, 03:34:58 PM
i think people expect the committee to do too much.
there not here to solve all the major issues of the world.
there here to solve all the small problems that arn't important enough for jitspoe to waste time thinking about.
it gives jitspoe another opinion to consider when making harder decisions, but mostly i would think the final say belongs to jits.
ide say theyre doing a good job considering none of them have any background in this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: lekky on January 03, 2008, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah Lekky, like the last few weeks of topics hasn't shown you.  Perhaps you should read all the posts that have been deleted.

I'm not a mod so I cant do this.. I have no control over how this forum works. All I try to do is make correct decisons based on circumstances, as do the majority of the Committee (I hope).
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: DaRkNeSS on January 03, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Whether you can or cannot view them, you know what I meant Lekky.  You act like this is the first time anyone has mentioned something about the committee.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Henkka on January 03, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
I voted yes cuz i like cherries.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: b00nlander on January 03, 2008, 03:48:29 PM
well, if everyone is unhappy with what the committee does, why not have a reelection? that's what happens in goverments all the time: people are unhappy with the current government so they have an election earlier than planned. after that, people are happy for a small while, because they elected those new folks.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: PaRaDeaD on January 03, 2008, 03:53:49 PM
Reelection would be good.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 03:53:58 PM
atleast replace those who are inactive. i mean WTF! come on. seriously. like woah. dude no. yarly.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 04:50:34 PM
And guys if you are upset because of the decision concerning sk89q, it wasn't even the committee's decision so you are being pretty silly.

how wasn't it the committee's decision? please inform me because i thought it was the committee that was handling that issue.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: magalhaes on January 03, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
Can't you understand that jitspoe does NOT want to ban him?
Now you tell me, what can the committee do about it?
I'm not going to argue if he should be banned or not i'm just saying it wasnt committee's decision to make.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: KiLo on January 03, 2008, 04:56:07 PM
Mag get your facts straight. Jitspoe said that it was the committee's decision not to ban sk89q.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 04:56:09 PM
so jitspoe came to you and told you he didn't want to ban sk89q? because i recall a post from jitspoe saying that the committee decided not to ban sk89q blah blah.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: magalhaes on January 03, 2008, 05:00:24 PM
You guys just keep making babies or what?
If you are all saying the same thing, only one is needed.
Anyway,
It really boils down to this:
- I don't want to ban people for trying to help, even if they do slip up a little.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: FlaMe on January 03, 2008, 05:00:46 PM
"Also I have not been disrespectful in my approaches"
Yeah you have but i guess you are not able to understand that yet :|

Dunno why you keep calling me D1 but you sure have a good reason.

"You also act as if I care about who in this game "likes" me... OMG SOME RANDOM KID FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY/STATE WHO ILL NEVER SEE NOR SPEAK TO HATES ME?!"
You are the person in this game who most cares about that, Sorry but you make it pretty obvious.

And stop typing in caps, making it seem like you are angry or something..

I promisse that if you stop posting someone else's idiotic ideas in this forums everyone will love you forever.

Id post on guest accounts....lolol

;]

good use of the Quote feature pr0.

Also once again, I dont think you understand that I dont care about who says what about me.

and youre D1 to me before youre Magalhaes... like Onslaught is Reaver and Mephine is still called hellHOUND by me... get over it.

I'm fine with the committee members aside from your good QeHs pal who will not be named.

I just wanna see how the polls turn out, no need to get defensive champ.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 05:11:16 PM
lmfao. so why would jitspoe lie and let the committee take the blame for not banning sk89q? please use your head magelelhae.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: lekky on January 03, 2008, 05:16:08 PM
lmfao. so why would jitspoe lie and let the committee take the blame for not banning sk89q? please use your head magelelhae.

Have you even seen what sk89q has helped jitspoe with? Have you understood how much of his time has gone into making this game better not just for jitspoe, but for everyone?

Do you understand the circumstances around the GT server crash, and the fix he helped generate?

Even if you do not agree with the non-ban, you must be able to see where jitspoe would be coming from IF HE did not want to ban this guy.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: magalhaes on January 03, 2008, 05:32:42 PM
I think the people who are not satisfied should say why they are not satisfied.
Lekky was answering to one of the reasons (only i've seen so far) why people are not satisfied.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Cobo on January 03, 2008, 05:51:33 PM
Everyone should just remember that now, how lekky answered to the reasons, so certain people cant keep an argument going by simply saying their questions have not been answered.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 06:17:10 PM
Have you even seen what sk89q has helped jitspoe with? Have you understood how much of his time has gone into making this game better not just for jitspoe, but for everyone?

Do you understand the circumstances around the GT server crash, and the fix he helped generate?

Even if you do not agree with the non-ban, you must be able to see where jitspoe would be coming from IF HE did not want to ban this guy.

what i said was, why would would jitspoe lie, and let the committee take the blame for not banning sk89q. i do realize that sk89q has done nothing but good since he has been here, but i don't believe he should be let of the hook for something he did and everyone else got banned for. but i also realize there was probably no logs proving what he did other than him openly admitting to it and apologizing. which would not result in a ban either way since myself and others were not banned, even after admitting, without logs.
  i only said that because mag thinks jitspoe was the one who did not want to ban sk89q, but it was the decision of the committee not jitspoe. or so he says.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: lekky on January 03, 2008, 06:22:27 PM
jitspoe is of course free to give his opinions on all matters we deal with, he may override them, tell us when we are missing something or being dumb. He is after all, just simply delegating his work to us, and like i said, if i was in his shoes, i would probably not want sk89q to be banned for what he did, especially considering why he did it, and the recent help (help is putting it lightly) he had given me.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: jitspoe on January 03, 2008, 06:40:00 PM
Let's keep all of the personal disputes out of this.  Given the circumstances, I didn't feel it was fair to ban sk89q.  The committee agreed.  Many people outside of the committee agree with the decision, others don't.  There's no way to make everybody happy.  Now let's move on.

This thread is about committee satisfaction.  If you don't feel they've been doing their job well, please state why.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: WarWulf on January 03, 2008, 07:11:19 PM
aww you removed my post. just to let you know i was being very sarcastic and i agree with jitspoe. why is everyone soo mad at the committee? what have we dont to make you all so angry?
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: QueeNiE on January 03, 2008, 07:56:35 PM
Solution: 

Step 1:  Remove the committee.


Step 2:  Elect a king. (or queen ;))


Step 3:  Who should be right for this job?  How will it be decided?  KinGiE!  YEAH



:P
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Eiii on January 03, 2008, 08:04:16 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Redundant = fair. The more people we have, the better a chance of getting a fair decision. Perhaps if it's seen that some committee members are 'better' at making decisions than others, those that are slow/not active can be removed without affecting anything too much. That's only something jits can do, though.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: QueeNiE on January 03, 2008, 08:07:23 PM
So just elect me as king.  Jeez. :(
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: coLa on January 03, 2008, 08:33:05 PM
just remove those who are inactive and replace them with someone else. why have them there if they've only been around to help once or twice?
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Apocalypse on January 03, 2008, 08:34:44 PM
I have to agree with Eiii and cola on this one I think the inactive committe members need to become more active or replaced on the committee no offense meant to them of course.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Spook on January 03, 2008, 08:45:41 PM
We are already taking care of that with a roll call for 2008.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Apocalypse on January 03, 2008, 08:54:00 PM
We are already taking care of that with a roll call for 2008.
When is this roll call spook I'm just suprised I havent heard yet.
Edit: Actually with me being on so little lately I'm not that suprised
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Garrett on January 03, 2008, 10:45:57 PM
I like what they are doing but there are too many people.  I am neutral because it doesn't affect me and regardless of what I think, it won't change anything and the committee is cleaning out all people with more then one account.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Justinph5 on January 03, 2008, 10:54:44 PM
There's so many people playing DP now, and only a few are upset, not everyone can be happy... (which seems to be all the same few) I already like their roll call they're going to have (which doesn't need to be known until they know who's going to be out, it'll be better to surprise inactive members anyways)   And if they replace those spots with unbiased people then they will be a very good committee....

The only thing I dont like are the currently inactive members.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on January 03, 2008, 11:22:40 PM
When is this roll call spook I'm just suprised I havent heard yet.
Edit: Actually with me being on so little lately I'm not that suprised


Its not open to the public.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: WarWulf on January 03, 2008, 11:22:40 PM
well now that the hollidays are over we will find out who is really slacking
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Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Reed on January 04, 2008, 12:01:58 AM
The main problem seems to be public relations; there's very little transparency in the decision making process. Most people would appreciate that it is a difficult time of year to have their first real challenge, but there has been a lack of information about what the committee is doing. Who is it looking to ban, what will be the length of the bans, what information is it seeking, who on the committee is in support of what view.

Because everything is done behind closed doors people believe the committee is not taking any action. I appreciate that private information cannot be discussed in public, but a little information could help to diffuse the situation, and it also lets us, the electorate, judge how well individuals are representing our views.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Sonny on January 04, 2008, 12:21:23 AM
Iam satisfied with the most of the committee members. And a reelection now isn't the right one. Let make the committee more failures and do the reelection in 2-3mouth (or later). I'm sure that the new committee will learning from the mistakes the first committee had made.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: loial21 on January 04, 2008, 03:04:46 AM
Let me ask this.

What is right, is right?

What is wrong, is wrong?

This has been defined for as long as history has been written.

I dont see any committee member pissing on this creed.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Henkka on January 04, 2008, 04:55:05 AM
aww you removed my post. just to let you know i was being very sarcastic and i agree with jitspoe. why is everyone soo mad at the committee? what have we dont to make you all so angry?
I'm not mad at you, i have always loved you all.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Re on January 04, 2008, 07:58:02 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Cameron on January 05, 2008, 12:59:31 AM
Don't seem to mind, nothing wrong with them.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: KiLo on January 05, 2008, 02:17:23 AM
I'm satisfied with the idea of the committee and some of their decisions although I believe that there are many flaws with the committee and that some of their decisions have been more than questionable.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: WarWulf on January 05, 2008, 03:00:59 AM
kilo what are these flaws and the decisions we have made that are questionable ^^ could help resolve some things faster maybe... :)
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: loial21 on January 05, 2008, 06:19:49 AM
the dog points out the important dogma's

Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: WarWulf on January 05, 2008, 11:24:01 AM
well its easy to complain about something its harder to try to fix situations or tell someone what they have done wrong without getting mad :P
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Hades on January 06, 2008, 01:23:58 AM
I am satisfied with it, they can't do much they aren't empowered as a committee only there to handle the bullexcrement out there Jitspoe is still the dictator. 
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: loial21 on January 06, 2008, 08:29:59 AM
Jitsues.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: WarWulf on January 06, 2008, 01:56:59 PM
lol @ loial and Jitsues

wow hades id like to buy you a medal!

I am satisfied with it, they can't do much they aren't empowered as a committee only there to handle the bullexcrement out there Jitspoe is still the dictator. 



people dont understand this for some reason lol
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: m7feettall on January 07, 2008, 04:11:37 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: S8NSSON on January 07, 2008, 09:27:08 AM
I have been on a number of committees, in college and in the work place.

I voted yes because I feel every committee member has done very well. Could more committee member be more involved in some of the in depth investigations, sure, myself especially. But, i've watched every committee member vote, comment, and justify on almost every listed case. THIS is what the committee is suppose to do. Investigate, Discuss, Vote, Comment/Justify, Resolve.

Let me say this as clearly as I can: I have seen absolutely no bias from any individual in the committee.
Let me say THIS as clearly as I can: A individual bias would not effect anything. That's why there are TEN members.

I seriously think some people are scared of the committee because they feel they won't be able to slip under the overwhelmed Jitspoe radar anymore.

I think the committee is doing fine.
Keep up the good work fellow committee personnel!
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: KiLo on January 07, 2008, 09:41:06 AM
kilo what are these flaws and the decisions we have made that are questionable ^^ could help resolve some things faster maybe... :)

Ask Lekky seeing as how I already talked with him about this.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Justinph5 on January 07, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
I seriously think some people are scared of the committee because they feel they won't be able to slip under the overwhelmed Jitspoe radar anymore.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: Sonix on January 07, 2008, 01:50:47 PM
i didnt have the time to read all the  posts but the committee to me plays favorites. that whole onslaught/reaver thing was dumb. he never used the reaver account and he got banned for people who disliked him. that is why he made a new account, to start over and actually be liked by the dpcommunity and with onslaught he wasnt hated on.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: KnacK on January 07, 2008, 02:14:37 PM
Incorrect Sonix.

He admited using Reaver and he got banned for having multiple accounts.
Title: Re: Are you satisfied with the committee? (Committee Members please dont vote)
Post by: jitspoe on January 07, 2008, 03:28:25 PM
i didnt have the time to read all the  posts but the committee to me plays favorites. that whole onslaught/reaver thing was dumb. he never used the reaver account and he got banned for people who disliked him. that is why he made a new account, to start over and actually be liked by the dpcommunity and with onslaught he wasnt hated on.
I guess you haven't gotten all of the details on that situation.  He felt the committee was unfair, so I made the decision on the ban time personally, and he got a longer ban because of it.  Why are people still blaming the committee when they didn't even make the decision?