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Paintball 2: The Game => Server Discussion => Topic started by: RaiN on April 06, 2013, 12:20:55 AM

Title: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 06, 2013, 12:20:55 AM
Alright i am very confused. People say that you dont need to port forward if you have a modem. everything works for my server but it just doesn't show up on others peoples list.

please help me
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: TRION on April 06, 2013, 12:46:03 AM
Well i had a modem but i still had to forward my ports. So i think it could be a solution for you. which company is ur modem?
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 06, 2013, 02:31:53 AM
i have a RCA modom and linksys router
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: deadfroggy on April 06, 2013, 03:47:34 AM
do you use windows xp if so go down to your taskbar and go to the part thats the icon saying you connected to the router. right click it go towindows firewall settings or something like that. go to exceptions. and then go to add program

then set as:
 name: server
port: 27910
udp

then press ok. then name the shortcut on your desktop for your server. server. and it should be all good depending iif your router hates you. it has a password and username on the router or your computer hates you. thats just an easy way i know for windows xp.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 06, 2013, 04:19:41 AM
Alright i am very confused. People say that you dont need to port forward if you have a modem. everything works for my server but it just doesn't show up on others peoples list.

please help me

It isn't that you don't need to port forward if you have a modem. You don't have to port forward if you ONLY have a modem and no router.  

Routers have firewalls, the default settings on these firewalls is to block incoming traffic on almost all ports.  By port forwarding on your router, you are telling it to allow all traffic on a specific port (paintball2 default port is 27910) and forward it to your computer (which is where the internal IP address comes in).

Everyone with cable/dsl has a modem, but not everyone has a router.  Some of them are a two-in-one device.  Just remember the point of port forwarding is to allow specific traffic passed your routers firewall.



Follow this guide for help port forwarding:  http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=17726.0
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 06, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
ok now that i port fowarded now what do i do? And my friend still cant find my server... i had him type in console connect 192.246.40.37.... he says it just keeps loading and loading
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 06, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
ok now that i port fowarded now what do i do? And my friend still cant find my server... i had him type in console connect 192.246.40.37.... he says it just keeps loading and loading


You probably didn't do the port forwarding properly.

Also make sure that there are no errors when you start your server.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 07, 2013, 12:30:49 AM
ok now that i port fowarded now what do i do? And my friend still cant find my server... i had him type in console connect 192.246.40.37.... he says it just keeps loading and loading

Going off what you just said, you need to also specify the port, so by default it would be:

Code: [Select]
connect 192.246.40.37:27910
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 07, 2013, 04:46:49 PM
ok i think it worked but when i open the paintball shortcut (server) i look at the bottom and it says sending heartbeat ........ then it says heartbeat acknowledged does that mean it will show up on the list?
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 08, 2013, 08:03:12 AM
Going off what you just said, you need to also specify the port, so by default it would be:
Code: [Select]
connect 192.246.40.37:27910

It will automatically use the default port if you don't include it.  Only need to include it if you've changed the server port.






ok i think it worked but when i open the paintball shortcut (server) i look at the bottom and it says sending heartbeat ........ then it says heartbeat acknowledged does that mean it will show up on the list?

It should if you've done the port forwarding properly.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 08, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
ok 1 more question would I also have to port forward on my modom too?

thanks for all your help guys I really appreciate it
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: TRION on April 08, 2013, 10:40:44 PM
maybe, as explained by Superman. It is nothing bad in trying it out. It would just make your server better. So in all cases I really advise port forwarding whether you have router or not.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 09, 2013, 04:32:00 AM
ok 1 more question would I also have to port forward on my modom too?

thanks for all your help guys I really appreciate it
No, your modem won't contain a firewall, unless it is a router itself as well.  You said above that you have a modem AND a router, so the router is the only one that you will need to port forward, as it is the only device which contains a firewall.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 09, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
maybe, as explained by Superman. It is nothing bad in trying it out. It would just make your server better. So in all cases I really advise port forwarding whether you have router or not.

This is wrong, you are really misunderstanding the reason why you need to port forward.  Cameron is correct.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: TRION on April 09, 2013, 10:32:07 PM
if we do try port forwarding in modem then would he/she suffer any problems?
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 10, 2013, 03:19:19 AM
if we do try port forwarding in modem then would he/she suffer any problems?
Routers have firewalls, the default settings on these firewalls is to block incoming traffic on almost all ports.  By port forwarding on your router, you are telling it to allow all traffic on a specific port (paintball2 default port is 27910) and forward it to your computer (which is where the internal IP address comes in).
There is no firewall on a device which is ONLY a modem.  You port forward to allow traffic THROUGH the firewall.  Therefore no firewall = no port forwarding.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: jitspoe on April 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Actually, port forwarding doesn't have anything to do with firewalls.  It's so the router knows which computer to send incoming connections to.

Example:

Computer 1 <---
Computer 2 <--- Router <--- Modem <--- Internet <--- Client
Computer 3 <---

The IP just gets you to the router.  From there, you have to forward the port to the appropriate computer, so the router knows if you want to connect to computer 1, 2, or 3.

Firewalls simply filter/block certain traffic (which can also cause problems, so you need to make sure that port is open on your firewall as well, if you have one).

RaiN: Part of the problem is that you're telling your friend to connect to what looks like your LAN IP address.  192.* is usually LAN IP's.  Unless he's wired directly into your router, he won't be able to connect with that IP.  He needs your external IP (you can get that from ipchicken.com or a number of other places that will display your IP address).
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 12, 2013, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: jitspoe link=topic=25874.msg232626#msg232626
date=1365719319
Actually, port forwarding doesn't have anything to do with routers.  It's so the router knows which computer to send incoming connections to.

That doesn't make much sense does it =p.  But yeah.. you are right.  A lot of home routers auto-configure the firewall when you set up port forwarding so I like to just to combine the two when explaining.  People don't end up understanding anyways.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: jitspoe on April 12, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
I meant to say it doesn't have anything to do with firewalls.  Fixed. :)
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: deadfroggy on April 12, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Then it also involves firewalls when it blocks incoming connections into your computer. you have to allow it through the firewall unless your walls broken ;). Then you need bob the builder to fix it.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 13, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Then it also involves firewalls when it blocks incoming connections into your computer. you have to allow it through the firewall unless your walls broken ;). Then you need bob the builder to fix it.
whos bob
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: deadfroggy on April 13, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
Nvm
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 13, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
don't I need a static ip too fort forward also.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 14, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
don't I need a static ip too fort forward also.

It helps but it isn't required.  You might have to redo it every few days if you don't have a static address.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Toxiic on April 14, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
don't I need a static ip too fort forward also.
your suppose to put in your LAN ip (modem ip) which every deivce gets once connected to that modem, that LAN ip doesn't change even if you don't have static ip, in a dynamic ip your external ip is the one that changes, so in other words your LAN ip should not be change what so ever, unless you change it, and you are suppose to be using your LAN ip on the port fowarding
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 15, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
dynamic lan ip can change, just depends how long the router holds it for.  since he hasnt port forwarded before i highly doubt hes got a static lan ip set up.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 16, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
ok so I have 2 computers ones newer and ones a little on the older side. so on my new computer when I do run cmd ip config it tells me the ipv4 address and on the old it says ip address. which one should I use.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: omni on April 16, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Is your old running xp? On windows xp I think that we're it says ip; it means ipv4.
you can check by right clicking on my computer I think.

Plus isn't that the internal ip of that machine so it should be different for both.

Might be: 192.168.0.(1-10) usually.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: SuperMAn on April 17, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
ok so I have 2 computers ones newer and ones a little on the older side. so on my new computer when I do run cmd ip config it tells me the ipv4 address and on the old it says ip address. which one should I use.

Which computer is running the server?.....
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 17, 2013, 02:52:48 PM
ok nvm..... the server works this video i found really helped my problem was the ip needed to be static. the link to this video if you wanted to watch it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp-R-eHiQco
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: Cameron on April 17, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
ok nvm..... the server works this video i found really helped my problem was the ip needed to be static. the link to this video if you wanted to watch it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp-R-eHiQco
Your router must drop dynamic IP's really quickly once they disconnect or something for that to happen.
Title: Re: Server help
Post by: RaiN on April 17, 2013, 08:44:47 PM
yes i closed the server and it doesnt go public again  >:(