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Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: JMR on July 18, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
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pbcup_pforest
propaint1
carpathian
wobluda_fix
airtime
castle1
pbcup_sassault
daylight_b1
pbcup_renoir
The 10th map all land on 14 votes. duck_fix | tatras | greenhill_b1
This thread is so you can not only see the current maps, but vote on what the 10th map should be, out of the 3.
Map information can be found, here:
http://paintball.jordanmrichards.com/tournaments.php?maps
[Under construction]
Results complete. greenhill_b1 won.
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its too bad Columbia wasn't one of the maps
I feel like even though they're all good maps most of these make a list that's kinda generic
the only maps that aren't really straightforward are pfo sassault and to some degree renoir
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I actually saw there 14 votes for tatras, 13 for duck and 13 for columbia 13 for greenhill, when vote was locked. Or am I blind?
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The vote was closed at 50 voters. At that point there were 14 for tatras, 14 for duck, 14 for greenhill and 13 for columbia.
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It's just unfortunate it's the same maps played over and over. Which is why I don't play anymore.
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It's just unfortunate it's the same maps played over and over. Which is why I don't play anymore.
Fair enough.
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I was considering trying to play in this one, but the map list is just garbage and unoriginal. Might as well add shaz22/33 as well to make sure every pub map is on there.
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I was considering trying to play in this one, but the map list is just garbage and unoriginal. Might as well add shaz22/33 as well to make sure every pub map is on there.
+1. Personally I'd enjoy a tournament of an entirely original map list (not necessarily new maps, but not the usual match/pub maps) that teams have to learn, and create their own strategies to play them well. I also reckon it would even out the entries as well, you're going to get some lower teams that learn to play them well, and then really good teams that are snobbish and learn the map as they go, which would initially give the lower team the upper hand and a better chance throughout the tournament in general.
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Well, there was a vote on the maplist, so i guess this is what a major part of community wants. While i kind of agree, it would be more fun to try and learn new maps instead of playing the 'old' ones over again, it is still the majority, who wants the 'old' maps (including partly me in the vote, altho i voted for some more 'interesting' aswell :p ).
One thing which didnt quite work out in my opinion is this 'multiple choice vote', because people got only limited amount of maps to chose from to vote. IMO, it would be much better to have people just post which maps they would like to see in the maplist and have someone count it and edit main post (yes, it would be much more work). Unfortunately, i didnt realise this until it was too late, so couldnt rly post about it.
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I also reckon it would even out the entries as well, you're going to get some lower teams that learn to play them well, and then really good teams that are snobbish and learn the map as they go, which would initially give the lower team the upper hand and a better chance throughout the tournament in general.
i like your idea, its like splitting the teams in two different and fair brackets (one for really good teams, one for newer teams) so even teams without .vT. or >o.O< tag can go to the finals ^^.
Well, there was a vote on the maplist, so i guess this is what a major part of community wants. While i kind of agree, it would be more fun to try and learn new maps instead of playing the 'old' ones over again, it is still the majority, who wants the 'old' maps (including partly me in the vote, altho i voted for some more 'interesting' aswell :p ).
totally agreed.
One thing which didnt quite work out in my opinion is this 'multiple choice vote', because people got only limited amount of maps to chose from to vote. IMO, it would be much better to have people just post which maps they would like to see in the maplist and have someone count it and edit main post (yes, it would be much more work). Unfortunately, i didnt realise this until it was too late, so couldnt rly post about it.
im not sure if this gonna work like that, i think it would end in a flamefest because too many people want too many different maps.
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Originally, I was going to come up with a new maplist, (which included some of my own maps that "no one plays")
please don't, just don't ::)
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i like your idea, its like splitting the teams in two different and fair brackets (one for really good teams, one for newer teams) so even teams without .vT. or >o.O< tag can go to the finals ^^.
Two diferent brackets might be interesting, altho it would require too many teams, which i believe PB doesnt have. But if it worked out, it would be really cool ^^.
im not sure if this gonna work like that, i think it would end in a flamefest because too many people want too many different maps.
Well, people could write as many maps as they would want, not just one. So the result might be kind of similar, but maybe not.
I CAN come up with an original maplist if that's what the majority want. But either way, it seems like I cannot win.
Would anyone even be bothered to learn them?
You can never win. Thats how this works, you are the one organising it, you are the one making the decision -> you can never win. Its easy to criticise, but hard to make the decisions :).
Yes, we would.
My suggestion is to make a poll, about who wants 'new maplist' and who wants 'old maplist'. Depending on the poll results (40% to 60% for example), you can then decide to use this maplist in tournaments accordingly. I guess i explained it kind of poorly, well you wanna have 4 tournaments in total (3 smaller and 4 final bigger). If the result of the poll was as i used there, 40% wants 'new maplist', then you would do 1 tournament with 'new maplist' and the rest 3 tournaments with 'old maplist'.
Another idea, might be what i came up (based on someones idea here on forum).
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0D3XzgHm-E1bk5lSHJ1RUhvYzQ/edit
every tournament had diferent maplist, while only the grand final one had 'standard' maplist and ONLY for tie maps.
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I just don't get how everyone has fun doing the same few maps over and over. I came back after four years and most of these were still new so it was cool. But now after even playing pbcup_pfo 1000 times I can't stand it anymore. It's just how the game has changed being all about speed and trick jumps rather then playing paintball.
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I just don't get how everyone has fun doing the same few maps over and over. I came back after four years and most of these were still new so it was cool. But now after even playing pbcup_pfo 1000 times I can't stand it anymore. It's just how the game has changed being all about speed and trick jumps rather then playing paintball.
I would say, thats its because there so many new maps, that nobody sticks with just one. If you think back when pbcup_pforest/renoir etc were all new maps, they were something new, they looked freaking good and people wanted to play them, because they liked them and it was some change to the old ugly maps (thats what i believe, i havent been around when it happened, but i think i could be right :p ). Now there is tons and tons decently looking maps and everyone is complaining about them not having good gameplay.
Most of the maps have good gameplay, people just dont play them enough. Example is zephyrus or destiny, these maps look really awesome, have been around for quite some time and their gameplay is really good i would say. Same goes for some of the JMR's maps, but nobody plays them.
IMO, we need at least of the tourneys to have maplist made ONLY of maps released in like 1 year ago period. People might start to like some of the maps and play them.
Another thing about pbcup_ is that it was played in tourney (i guess, there were only these maps?), and people were forced to play them and suddenly, they started to like them.
PS:I have no idea how it really was with pbcups_, its just what i assume, so i might be totally wrong there :p.
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no freedom, no sass4, no zemer, no zephyrus, no g2, no ppsw but airtime pp1 daylight? you scrubs make me fuhrerious
Well, there was a vote on the maplist, so i guess this is what a major part of community wants.
community which includes people voting like baseballdude, fussion, lukip and more neverheards that wont even play? oh fml.
what about vote for people who will actually play? pforest had 35 votes, that means we can get 35+ players in tourney - so at least 12 teams? wow.
if at least 12 teams wont sign up then the vote is absolutely irrelevant
just make vote for people who will participate, not for some scrubs. kthxbai
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I kinda agree with everything everyone has been saying it's confusing the least but Joseph has a point about the votes from people who don't play/won't play at all.
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I just don't get how everyone has fun doing the same few maps over and over.
That's why the older people stop playing. The reason DT maps were so popular is that at the time there wasn't much like them. They mixed slower and faster game play extremely well, and look nice to top it off. Someone needs to do a little innovating like he did. New maps are cool and all, but if it's just another grass and rock recycle no one really gives an excrement.
Originally, I was going to come up with a new maplist, (which included some of my own maps that "no one plays")
I CAN come up with an original maplist if that's what the majority want. But either way, it seems like I cannot win.
Would anyone even be bothered to learn them?
Props for trying to please people, it sucks to organize things. But I think including a ton of your own maps would be a bit biased. I like my own things as well, but it's not what is best. The maps aren't bad, but maybe add 1 or 2, not all of them.
My ideal situation would be to try to recruit a few people that have some mapping skill to come up with a few smaller brand new maps. Mix them in with your maps (or other newer maps) and older maps. Separate into 3 categories (brand new / newer / older):
1st Round: team 1 picks category, team 2 picks map in category.
2nd Round: team 2 picks category, team 1 picks map.
Tie-Breaker: pick a map from unused category.
Not the best thing to do, and would need some new or beta maps to be made/finished that are quality. But at least it isn't another recycled crap map list and tournament.
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no freedom no eX
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no freedom no eX
And..... NO one cares!
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no freedom no eX
Even if freedom was going to be in it, people would veto the map when playing against ex since you guys like it so much...
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But after [eX] leaving the community for some time, don't expect us to bow down to you.
Don't expect us to bow down to you.
FTFY
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floccinaucinihilipilification?
lol
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But after [eX] leaving the community for some time, don't expect us to bow down to you.
we don't have to be active to beat all of you nubs <3
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no freedom no eX
It's sad that you don't wanna play normal maps :')
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Another idea, might be what i came up (based on someones idea here on forum).
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0D3XzgHm-E1bk5lSHJ1RUhvYzQ/edit
every tournament had diferent maplist, while only the grand final one had 'standard' maplist and ONLY for tie maps.
this. is awesome, like. really awesome! :D
no freedom, no sass4, no zemer, no zephyrus, no g2, no ppsw but airtime pp1 daylight? you scrubs make me fuhrerious
community which includes people voting like baseballdude, fussion, lukip and more neverheards that wont even play? oh fml.
what about vote for people who will actually play? pforest had 35 votes, that means we can get 35+ players in tourney - so at least 12 teams? wow.
if at least 12 teams wont sign up then the vote is absolutely irrelevant
just make vote for people who will participate, not for some scrubs. kthxbai
youre just crying because freedom and sassault4 are the only maps where you have a serious chance to get on the finals. and i havent even voted for the maplist.
even if this maps are in the maplist, people will eliminate them as soon as they can IMO.
Firstly, I said "some", not all of my maps. I am unsure why you were under the assumption that I meant all. Maybe it was just floccinaucinihilipilification?
Secondly, it's not my maps. It's just the community. A lot of the people I have talked with say that the community do not want to learn new maps, they want to play what they know and love.
Maps take a long time to become popular.
Thirdly, recruiting people to build new maps is good. (ahem that's what the spcup_ series was for) Community acceptance of new maps however, denies these maps.
Finally, no matter which maps are played, there will always be people who complain about maps. I don't want to play MY MAPS I want to play maps that people enjoy. I only map because I find it enjoyable and want to create something that others will enjoy. Unfortunately, in a community like this, making something that will be excepted 'universally' is almost merely impossible.
In conclusion,
I am frustrated by the audacity of some people. There is literally nothing I can do to please everyone. Also, please note that it is impossible to determine who is going to play. In fact, I reckon at least half of the people who post here can't even be bothered to play. Please, if you want to say something, say it, but with reasoning and solutions (like Ace did). It's all good complaining, but if you don't provide a solution, then how do you expect your "issue" to be resolved? (FYI, restricting certain players from voting is impossible and simply childish)
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You are basically saying that because you know eX won't play. You already told me that. If you've changed your mind and are thinking about playing, then play. But after [eX] leaving the community for some time, don't expect us to bow down to you.
you are the excretory opening anyway, your decisions doesnt matter. there will allways be people who will say youre wrong or omg youre stupid what have you done. no need to be frustrated.
you tried to involve the community, thats really nice. but as you can see it doesnt work. you should force your mind now and make your own decisions which are only influenced by you and your clan.
its your tournament, youre doing the work. not the community.
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youre just crying because freedom and sassault4 are the only maps where you have a serious chance to get on the finals.
yeah.. sure, hehe.. unlike you when you have no chance on any map :*
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restricting certain players from voting is impossible and simply childish
impossible? let vote just those who have signed up for tourney (give links only to them) and there ya go problem solved
until then the poll remains irrelevant.
You are basically saying that because you know eX won't play. You already told me that. If you've changed your mind and are thinking about playing, then play. But after [eX] leaving the community for some time, don't expect us to bow down to you.
oh we're going to play dont worry
It's sad that you don't wanna play normal maps :')
>normal maps
>daylight, airtime, propaint1
pick one
youre just crying because freedom and sassault4 are the only maps where you have a serious chance to get on the finals. and i havent even voted for the maplist.
im sure ive named more than 2 maps, also lookin forward to lose against you! on one of those maps ;)
you are the excretory opening anyway, your decisions doesnt matter. there will allways be people who will say youre wrong or omg youre stupid what have you done. no need to be frustrated.
you tried to involve the community, thats really nice. but as you can see it doesnt work. you should force your mind now and make your own decisions which are only influenced by you and your clan.
its your tournament, youre doing the work. not the community.
either way you gotta pay more attention in english classes, that shizz makes no sense yo
Even if freedom was going to be in it, people would veto the map when playing against ex since you guys like it so much...
elim mappool - wobluda 24/7
had idea for elim but jmr still used this awful one
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I was considering trying to play in this one, but the map list is just garbage and unoriginal.
Not going to try to attend a tourney with maps that I play everyday. :(
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oh we're going to play dont worry
>normal maps
>daylight, airtime, propaint1
pick one
I'm so ready to smash souls out of you eX.
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I'm so ready to smash souls out of you eX.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/97ca289f2fe2cc4e5f4c9437ddb16688/tumblr_mgysyvN3EF1r1rt5lo1_500.jpg)
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DAYUM^, i think your skin isn't white. But nice try.
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I'm so ready to smash souls out of you eX.
first you need a lordvessel and kill more bosses, see you i newgame+ :3
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I'm confused why eX thinks they are so good, they talked a big game an lost to us everytime and they lost to proza's team. They have never been to the finals in these tourneys once. You guys look like complete dipexcrements when saying you are going to win.
Much love squeeze I got your back.
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first you need a lordvessel and kill more bosses, see you i newgame+ :3
Oh pls, walkthrough with shield is too easy (reference to freedom :p). When you get through with just dodging skills you might be worthy enough to receive lordvessel.
Much love squeeze I got your back.
http://youtu.be/8yis7GzlXNM?t=1m33s
Anyway, while this flamefest is fun, it isnt rly helping the tourney is it :p. So, what about the poll to have decide whether its majority of players who wants 'new' maplist or not. I think thats like the only thing thats gonna move us forward. If anybody got some better constructive idea, go on please ;).
EDIT: BTW, Clipz, you are the black guy ^^
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LOL... so true, straight to the point, while hittin my joint. This battle is over before people decided to begin, and when you match aveiro its just a freewin!!!!!!
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Yo, i would like to say something. Thats it. Hope you guys know what i mean. ;)
#helloascra#youcanthide#<3#iliketwelVieZ
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Well, this escalated quickly..
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Fun to watch these euros with autism sayin a bunch of nonsense stuff. ^^
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dooci i guess we wont see you in tourney , am i right ?
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Nah I'm pretty sure team 300 will be entering this tourney. #eurosarebundles of twigs
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so, when is this tourny going on JMR? I work a full time job (pornstar) so i'm very busy! Pleeeease let us know a few weeks in advance!
Thanks babe
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lol this is what i see :P + I am BACK!
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dooci i guess we wont see you in tourney , am i right ?
No you wont see dooci in the tournament because his team refuse to play with him =L but you will see [3oo]