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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: loial21 on July 28, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
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No date planned.
I see. I meant to ask you this when we talked the other night. Not even an estimated guess on the release in terms of weeks or months?
*kicks rocks and waits.
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Lol. So impatient, Loial? You're gonna need a lot of rocks.
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Naw I will use the same rock. Thats they way I roll.
rock roll....never mind.
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Lol @ loial. You'd better be good at finding rocks, then.
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I keep hitting snags in my plans, so it's difficult to predict how long it's going to take. Plus I have a bunch of stuff going on in Real Life (tm), so I don't know how much time I'm going to have to work on it.
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Real Life? WHAT!! This is not real? Oh man i better find this "real life" soon or I will end up like......jobless morons that make this game less and less fun.
Good luck at work and dpcon. Those that care, really are excited about the release.
Thanks for the hard work.
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I don't really see the point to be honest in this whole Global login. Sure it stops name spoofing, and we can even add sweet medals and score tracking etc. But why? Why are you so worried about someone using your name, who cares. People will know its not you
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because people in this game are crazy on pubs, and others are anal on pubs, and the game needs pubs to have a decent community that doesn't hate everyone and claim eachother cheats maybe?
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Seriously the only people that want this global login system are pub-craving newbies, and loial. Like SkateR said, who cares if somebody impersonates you. If they are sucking people will know it's not you and if they are dominating then does it really matter? It's not like they're making you look bad if they are playing well.
For people like me, and 90% of the clanning community does not play public servers, and if they do they usually use an alias. So really, this global login system is pretty useless for 90% of the DP community (the ones that matter -- irc clanners). Only other people are the ones that play pub only, then the 10% of clanning pubbers.
I do not care about stats as I use a different alias everytime I play pub anyways. I do not care about being impersonated, not like anybody would want to impersonate an idiot like me anyways. Focus on improvements to DP that will help the gameplay, and not this Global Login System that seems to be giving you troubles anyways (if I have read some posts correctly)
I think the majority would agree with me here.
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I totally agree with Lunatic, it would basically be a useless addition to the game seeing how only pubbing newbies want it and they change their names weekly.
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If the global login is implimented, Im most likely going to quit dp. not everyone wants to use their name. I personally like to just play under my clan tag. Loial seems to be the only person so worried about this.
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Yeah and seriously, does anybody care about loial's opinion?
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I think it would be more useful for stat tracking than anti-spoofing.
EDIT: I don't.
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I look forward to GBL Logins.
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Why? so you can play pub with your real name. Most decent players dont even play pub, mainly matches.
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I think it would be more useful for stat tracking than anti-spoofing.
I know that, but all the "good" players usually play under different alias' when they actually play pub, which is just about never. So the stats would be for those kids that play ONLY pubs, and also change their names all the time. We want to broaden the clan community imo.
Just input an mIRC.exe when you download pball with a readme for how to install it and integrate yourself in the DP community. That would be the best thing for the next build.
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Pub's still need to be part of the game though, without pubs nobody new would play. And they're fun for goofing off without a care of the score.
mirc isn't GPL. xchat ftw.
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I think it would be more useful for stat tracking than anti-spoofing.
I know that, but all the "good" players usually play under different alias' when they actually play pub, which is just about never. So the stats would be for those kids that play ONLY pubs, and also change their names all the time. We want to broaden the clan community imo.
I really don't get what you're trying to say here.
Just input an mIRC.exe when you download pball with a readme for how to install it and integrate yourself in the DP community. That would be the best thing for the next build.
I'm pretty sure we couldn't legally do that. ;)
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Seriously the only people that want this global login system are pub-craving newbies, and loial. Like SkateR said, who cares if somebody impersonates you. If they are sucking people will know it's not you and if they are dominating then does it really matter? It's not like they're making you look bad if they are playing well.
For people like me, and 90% of the clanning community does not play public servers, and if they do they usually use an alias. So really, this global login system is pretty useless for 90% of the DP community (the ones that matter -- irc clanners). Only other people are the ones that play pub only, then the 10% of clanning pubbers.
I do not care about stats as I use a different alias everytime I play pub anyways. I do not care about being impersonated, not like anybody would want to impersonate an idiot like me anyways. Focus on improvements to DP that will help the gameplay, and not this Global Login System that seems to be giving you troubles anyways (if I have read some posts correctly)
I think the majority would agree with me here.
That's what I was trying to say.
I'm pretty sure we couldn't legally do that. ;)
Everything is legal if you want it to be.
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Oh, and for the love of god why must we have these new rules? Take out guntemp and those capping rules. Please. Notice no match servers have these new rules? I wonder why..
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Seriously the only people that want this global login system are pub-craving newbies, and loial. Like SkateR said, who cares if somebody impersonates you. If they are sucking people will know it's not you and if they are dominating then does it really matter? It's not like they're making you look bad if they are playing well.
For people like me, and 90% of the clanning community does not play public servers, and if they do they usually use an alias. So really, this global login system is pretty useless for 90% of the DP community (the ones that matter -- irc clanners). Only other people are the ones that play pub only, then the 10% of clanning pubbers.
I do not care about stats as I use a different alias everytime I play pub anyways. I do not care about being impersonated, not like anybody would want to impersonate an idiot like me anyways. Focus on improvements to DP that will help the gameplay, and not this Global Login System that seems to be giving you troubles anyways (if I have read some posts correctly)
I think the majority would agree with me here.
That's what I was trying to say.
I'm pretty sure we couldn't legally do that. ;)
Everything is legal if you want it to be.
That has nothing to do with stat tracking...
And no. I'm afraid that doesn't work.
The cap rules are great- guntemp not so much.
Also, no double posting.
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I mentioned lame stats. "I do not care about stats as I use a different alias everytime I play pub anyways." As do so many others.
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A lot of people do, though. It's been requested quite a bit, if I remember correctly.
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Yeah by loial.
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No, loial is the anti-spoofing fanatic.
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No, I mean he's the only one requesting this lame Global Login thing.
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I'm requesting stat tracking, (like lots of people), which would be impossible without Global Login. The Global Login is happening. Deal with it.
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ummm actually eiii your wrong. if you recall the eR33t servers had stats without global login system.
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Did Lun ever bother to read the build 17 vote thread, before posting here?
At first I voted for it. But then this happened.......
*disclaimer there is no evasion of the lang filter so please dont be offended at the language as it is a last resort to communications with hating morons.
Since so many people voted for the global login, which is a good reflection of what the majority of paintballers want. How could I be the only one then that wants this? That statement is pure conjecture. Moreover its just a case of another cow saying "MOOO" which I equate to you sk8ter boomer and smokette saying "public newbs". So if you see me type "Mooo" from now on its me mocking you four wanna be er33t ass kissing clowns. To bad I have to point this out in a rude manor but that seems to the only way you understand things. What the intercourse are you so scared of to use just one name? Holy Jesus H Christ Chicken excrements. Grow the intercourse up and stop your whining, becuase that is all these lasts post to stop the global login are.
Back to the topic .....the majority voters clearly thinks that the global login is needed (for what ever reason) With that in mind I decided to change my vote for lager balls and I posted this fact after Bob's vote. So in summation my vote was not for a Global Login. Thats just another pathetic attempt to defame me. I am honored that even though I have stopped posting for the most part, you still feel the need to invoke my name. How righteous is that? I am now laughing at your face booger.
Lastly,
Sk8ter please keep your word for once and quit when this is built and released.
If the global login is implimented, Im most likely going to quit dp. not everyone wants to use their name. I personally like to just play under my clan tag. Loial seems to be the only person so worried about this.
Also as stated above I am not the only one who cares, there was thing called "A VOTE" ignoramus, was I the only who voted? Was my vote for this? No. Get a clue.
Sorry you had to see the angry Loial. That’s not normally how i choose to handle business but we are dealing with the biggest wimpering bunch of kittys ever, 16- 20 year old online bullies. Get a real life and a real job then we will see how you feel.
GG Cya in pubs you hypocrits.
Shakes head and wonders off thinking "will they ever help make this community better?" Nope
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I know it is happening. But I'm going to continue to complain because it is worthless and isn't needed for stats to be recorded. Public servers are lame and nothing should be done to encourage them. It's the clanning community that is hurting. There is what, 2 maybe 3 fully active "challenging" clans out there? And yet you can fill 5 public servers. What the intercourse needs to be helped more? Think about it..
EDIT: I kiss er33t's ass..? lol. You have no idea what you're saying so you might as well live the forum and pub server life having NO idea what's going on in mirc and the clanning community.
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Loial, I read about twenty words and there was already a puddle of drool on my desk due to the fact that it is almost impossible to read your so called post. You seem to be the only one to complain about OMGZ SOMEONE WILL SPEWF MI GEWD NAME. Noone wants to play under your name, stop worrying so bad. As for me quitting dp, I doubt I will, but I wont register SkateR. Who the fck wants to log in everytime they open dp. So lame.
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On the bright side, Loial's posts are a bit more coherent when he's an angry flaming caveman.
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first all what the hell does my opinion have to do with eR33t? seriously Loial be quiet about that. None of us suck up to eR33t especially me. Just cause were friends with them doesn't mean anything.
Jits: why dont you ever temp ban loial, seems like he always has to flame on people while posting.
Yeah we say pub newbs cause look at who plays pub these days. None of them even probably come on the forums so they don't know whats going on. People change their names so much it would serve no purpose, it would only be good for stats.
EDIT: How are we whinning? We are just giving our opinions. You seriously need to calm down a little.
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What's so wrong with using your real nick while playing? Bain posted a nice article about fakenickers here: http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=1730.0
I can understand if you think my time was better spent elsewhere, but you make it sound like the whole clan community will fall apart if people are forced to use a consistent name online. On the contrary, I think it will help build the community. People will actually get to know each other since they won't be playing different people all the time (who are actually the same people using different names). Registering a name will most likely require accessing the website, which will in turn increase awareness of the forums, irc, and clan activity. People will act less like smacktards because they're less anonymous. Players caught cheating will be easier to identify and ban. And, the obvious, people won't be spoofing other players, adding members to clans they don't even belong to, etc.
The only people I see this causing an issue for are griefers, but I'm sure they'll find new ways to harass people.
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I havent posted in while and wont unless I see something worth posting over. I jump on and bam there is my name being mentioned in a unfactual post. Again all I see is 'MOOOO' with some pauses and no anwsers to direct questions. Why would you want to use more than one name? One honest good for the community anwser needed only. Just one. The Global Login hurts no one, period and thank you for your opinion.
Lun why do you equate the paintball world to being on mirc 24/7? Its not. Sure there are some really nice people there and its fun. Moreover I would recommend using it as a tool to improvement. (EDITED)why do you bash the public players? They are the pillar of your greatness. Without them who would you pick on?
I thought so sk8ter. Still cant read huh? Not my fault. Nice avoidence. I really am looking forward to no spoofing and makeing others use limited names in pubs and matches. Dude what are u 12, I have known u now for mabey 3 years. You have yet to mature one single iota. Again 'MOOOOO' right back at ya.
Boomer, I was just giving my opinion too. I was calm when I wrote it.
I respect each one of your opinions, however I find it over biased with 'leetism' please get over it and stop hating on public and new players, there is no purpose for it. If there is I dare you to post one logical reason for it.
Thought so. +1global login
Frye ;) me want to zug zug lana.
*edit sorry jits you beat me to the post. dont mean to dumb yours down :)
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loial, you callling me a suck up after you told me how badly you used to suck bob's detective. You play pub all day, you sit on the forums. you're almost always on here. Shutup. You're an idiot and you really need to just not post. Global login will suck, but w/e, web proxies are there for a reason.
You have no idea what you're talking about, go play pub, Newbie.
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Pink,
Having no limited resources to confirm this, you at least have used your name in public and had fun doing so. Agreed? What is your stance in this thread? Also we all had a vote ??? right ???
TO ALL,
The most voted on addition (which I did not vote for) was a global login. Where if I may ask was....lun, sk8ter, boomer and the rest of 90% of IRC Clanners that 'matter'
Smokey so let me guess this..you dont mind being banned from all public servers?
yes or no
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yes i mind, beacuse i like to make fun of NEWBIES like you. i have no idea why you think people care about what you have to say or what you think should be done.
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For the record, when I am in public servers I rarely every say one word. Let alone make fun of "newbies". I just think there is so many new people in there that it's a joke even bothering to play in them. With most of the good players never playing pub, they are really lame and there is hardly any competition. It's retarded. I fon't care about stats or my name being "spoofed" so what is my reason for being pro-global login system? So I can see who I am REALLY playing against? Whoopdimeddlingdoo.
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Loial, I read about twenty words and there was already a puddle of drool on my desk due to the fact that it is almost impossible to read your so called post.
Actually, I found Loial's post quite readable, a lot more than this:
OMGZ SOMEONE WILL SPEWF MI GEWD NAME.
And besides that, Jitspoe, would you mind splitting this topic? It is called "Implementation Discussion", and the last 2 pages are far from it.
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yes i mind, beacuse i like to make fun of NEWBIES like you. i have no idea why you think people care about what you have to say or what you think should be done.
'Moooo' ::)
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I think you're thinking of Quake2: Source. Q2E isn't using my code (or not much of it if they are).
In other news, I have the urge to punch some GNU programmers in the face because of their poor windows support, dependency hell, and bloated libraries. Try getting libcurl compiled with gnutls, I dare you. I think I may just throw the concept of secure logins out the window and settle for something basic.
How in the hell did you do reflective water?
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I didn't vote at all and I rarely check the forums. But lun and I and many others talk about this on mIRC and we all agree with eachother. I'm on luns side not eR33ts btw just in case you dont understand that loial.
We talk about this on mIRC and most of us agree on the same thing. If you would like to participate in this conversation please feel welcome to join us on #team_i otherwise stop assuming. I really don't care I usually use my real name anyways and I play pub maybe once a month not even that and it's not any fun. No good players ever play pub so I go like 50-9 everytime I play so there is no fun in that. I don't care about people stealing my name too cause well people know me so they will be able to tell and most people know I basically never talk in game unless someone says something to me.
EDIT: oh and once stats take effect, people will play even more lame than they already do so it will be even less fun then it already it is.
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I wanted avoid giving taco credit for using his name in pubs more often than not. Unless I have rcon to every server in public (which I dont) how would I know he is not using other names? I know you say big deal. But this is very helpful when trying to admin servers and keeping it lamer free. How many of those oppose host a 'paid' for server? Now how many use 'paid' for servers to match?
Yes there are more problems than spoofing in puiblic. Do you really care? If so, cheating is first but along side it is greifing. Like Jitspoe said using this tool (which it is) will by design lesson both.
Remember map lists and server settings can be changed, bad players cant.
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Uh.. what?
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This is because there are many, many deeper problems with public servers than people spoofing names.
What do you consider to be the deepest problem with playing on pub servers?
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Agreed with #1. By 1# being fixed, i´d say #2 is also half-way fixed because the "more-skilled" players which are sick of playing most of those "boring" maps, will begin to play more. Suggestions for a #3?
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Global logins could help with the newbies because we could break the servers into skill groups, that way new players won't be getting raped, and skilled players won't have that idiot who can't figure iis way out of the base on their team.
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Jitspoe did you use spell check?
I think it is stupid to break servers up. There are few servers that are used, GT, and cable servers. No point in doing that. If you were to make it where we log in with a name I.E "Skater" then allow us to make our name whatever, that is completely fine. Like type players in console and it shows who the person is either aliased or not.
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Jitspoe did you use spell check?
I think it is stupid to break servers up. There are few servers that are used, GT, and cable servers. No point in doing that. If you were to make it where we log in with a name I.E "Skater" then allow us to make our name whatever, that is completely fine. Like type players in console and it shows who the person is either aliased or not.
I think that makes lots of sense, nice idea skater. If i were to log-in under the name FyreStorm, then use whatever name I wanted, that would be pretty cool. And my stats would reflect FyreStorm, no matter what alias I used in the servers.
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Why would you need to change your name?
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Because Im sure not everyone wants to use their name eveyrtime they want to play
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Only reason I wouldn't use my real name is if I don't like people in the server and I know they will be annoying (haze for example, most annoying player in dp) but I think SkateR's idea was pretty good.
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Does this mean I can't play for other clans?
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=[ hope not
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Jitspoe asked a direct question. For the first time I have seen a legitimate responce, Boomer's.
Boomer,
Respectfuly that is why we have server rules, to stop that kind of behavior. As luck would have it there are no 24 hour admins. But with one single screen shot from player who cares, the admins will have an easier time dealing with such problems.
Now I know you and others might say to your self "I dont trust the admins to be fair or even care" Let me ask this...Do you care? Yes or No? I ask that because you made a good point on why sometimes you might need to change your name.
Skeets,
No offense but... Because Im sure not everyone wants to use their name eveyrtime they want to play
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1.Why is that? I think that is what Jitspoe is asking,
2. Does not a player have to use a name to play? Logically speaking that name would belong to the player that is using it under the global login. Right? Guess what name that is? Its whatever you decided it to be, unless it has been taken.
Thats the beauty of the login. Your player name is for you only. Use it and be proud of it.
Taco,
Anyone can suggest maps for pubs and matches on GT or EV1 Loial to be put on rotation here at the forums. You have not made any direct suggestions to anyone here as to what maplist you would like to see, match servers or otherwise. So will you post a maplist suggestion, please?
How can a newb be a problem to you or anyone? Unless they are cheating etc etc.
Also something I was thinking about that you might be able to help with. Given that you know alot about this.
Is this a fact? ...
"Less new players and more IRC clanners are guilty of cheating etc etc." ....Just curious. Yes? No?
MOOOOO!
I am not discrediting anything said, simply suggesting a better way to handle Boomer's and Taco's concerns.
See Boomer I can post with out flames. To bad its a freaking book, sorry forum readers. :(
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Well I respect you for not flaming on anyone and I actually read it all the way through this time :)
Well I would say I care enough but I don't play pub very much but yeah I would e-mail admins a screenshots if I had one. I trust them enough to do something cause I think all the admins have seen how haze acts.
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HaZe will just kill yo' momma.
However, you cannot deny haze's steroid rages being the single greatest thing of all time.
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Well, here's food for thought: global logins could potentially allow you to perm-ignore certain players so you'd never have to read their garbage again. It's also possible to register more than one name. I currently have it set up so you can register 3 names. I think that's enough to cover what most people use.
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Lets not focus on Haze. Haze is a pup, in a literal sense. I play with him often in public. He likes to play fetch the flag. Haze also sits and stays when told. More on subject is this, he uses one name in public more often than some.
Besides he knows he is being watched, in public if any GT admin is around. Remember the admins are not around 24/7. Having a global login without *edited* unlimited name changing will help admins as stated earlier and players will be able to send proof with out chance of any spoofing.
Let us focus instead on the twisted duality of name changing instead. Or I can shut up and go to sleep. I pick sleep and quiet.
*Edit grrr to Jitlits posting over me. :)
I belive three is plenty really one should suffice. In either case for the players and admins alike this is so much easier to keep track of then an unlimited supply of names and useless screen shots of dper's behaving badly.
SLEEP GOOOOD!!!
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I currently have it set up so you can register 3 names. I think that's enough to cover what most people use.
You´re talking about 3 accounts per computer and their nicks cant be changed, right jitspoe?! I´d be fine with that.
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I think it's 1 account with 3 different names registered.
e.g. Account name: Skater - Registered names: SkateR, RetakS, Vinne
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Can you add pre/suffixes for clans. So you don't have to register as, for example: -ch1ll-Lunatic? I can just register as Lunatic and add whatever clan tag I have to?
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You will register Lunatic. One of the leaders will need to register ch1ll and add you to the clan, then you can use -ch1ll-Lunatic. It will automatically detect the clan tag, -ch1ll-, and verify that you're a member of the clan. Otherwise you won't be able to use the tag.
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Okay thanks.
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That sounds like a good idea. I guess the global login won't be as bad as I thought it would be.
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Wee!!!! Global Login!!