Digital Paint Discussion Board
Paintball 2: The Game => Server Discussion => Topic started by: eateR on August 26, 2006, 06:17:02 PM
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I absolutely love the GT Match (and pub) servers, however there are 2 major configuration problems that need to be addressed ASAP, which heavily effect match play. Both are similar, if not the same thing:
#1. Temp Ban for flooding - Almost every match at least one person from our team is banned for mm2 "flooding" of recon. I can understand having mm1 flood protection, but mm2 is just ridiculous. This should be removed entirely.
#2. Temp Ignore for flooding - Almost the same exact thing, except you're not kicked and temp banned, but rather put on "silence mode" for 10 seconds. Often we play 3v3 and first one down is frequently muted due to "flooding". This again should be removed entirely for mm1.
If either of these "features" cannot be disabled strictly for mm2, I think you should remove it entirely. Ch1ll servers don't have any problems wtih flooding and frankly I think it's quite uneccessary.
PLEEEASE GT fix this ASAP!!!!!! We love your servers but will be forced to stop using them if these errors in configuration are not corrected soon. :(
Thanks in advance!!
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(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
(eateR): ENEMY SIGHTED!!!!!
You only need to use the bind once. There's no problem with the current kick/ignore settings.
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yes there is.
(Smokey): INCOMING LOW!!
(Smokey): INCOMING NOW!! WATCH OUT!!
(Smokey): LADDER 2!
(Smokey): LADDER 1
(Smokey): LADDER 2
(Smokey): INCOMING NOW!! WATCH OUT!!
(Smokey): ENEMY IS AT FLAG
(Smokey): FLAG IS OUT CATWALK
(Smokey): MIDDLE
Saying all that in under 30 seconds would get my temp-banned or flooded. eiii clearly knows nothing about matching
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Not much, no. I honestly don't see why you'd need all thatin 30 seconds, let alone gather that much information in 30 secods. =P
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pp1 is what smokey is reconning there... what is happening is the enemy is trying to get the recom messed up but hes doing all of it to relay his position but of course in gt hed be kicked or silenced and most likley his team would die due to not knowing anything about his enemy
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spook FTW.
indeed, but without voice thats really hard to do.
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I'm still not convinced, but okay. :D
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WOW after my detailed and brilliant explanation you still dont get it... i think im gonna slit my wrists because this world is too dumb for me
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eiii dosent match so he has no say.
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Lol spook, your detailed and brillant explanation was one sentence.
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im sorry but does that make the difference in being detailed or not or could it be from my lack of knowledge about the english language on these forums. RUN ON SENTENCE
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EIII first of alll.. "MOOOOOOO!" +4 post count.
Valid complaint. I will bring this is up as a concern. Sharon is the one you would need to convince.
I will speak agaisnt it.
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figures..
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Yes, Loial. All I live for is that number under my name.
...still not a cow.
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Good fkn god, never seen so many worthless posts in all my life. Some of you seriously have WAY too much time on your hands (Eiii). For future reference if you don't have any valid information to add to my post, just refrain from posting at all. Seriously, just wow.
Loial, thanks a lot. I'll try and talk to her if I ever see her... don't hardly ever see her around anymore.
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eateR, you need to poo.
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How did you know? Open your mouth.
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NO WAI! Not gonna let you eat there!
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wow really all these posts and not one is a GT member well besides loial... u guys just wait for a new topic to come up so u can up ur post count and talk about stuff that has nothing to do with the original topic... anyways i second that these features should be removed from GT match servers.. its a real pain...
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EIII first of alll.. "MOOOOOOO!" +4 post count.
Valid complaint. I will bring this is up as a concern. Sharon is the one you would need to convince.
I will speak agaisnt it.
I think the point of him not matching means he has no say comes into play here
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Okay, you don't have to take my advice, I just really, really don't get why you would need to send a message every 3 seconds. Or HOW you'd send a message every three seconds.
...and what did that quote have to do with what you said? ;)
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I'm thinking that he has most of the messages bound to keys, no idea how he remembers which key is which though. And the game gets fast, people change direction often. (sometimes even intentionally to throw off the recon)
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binds.
easy.
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wow do u guys even play this game?? obviously not.. and its not hard to remember what binds are where unless your L D...
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It is hard to remember your binds when you have a Theban keyboard and are a slow reader. Ask Spook, my $1 keyboard owns, I colored the # keys to match their Quake III weapon.
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i honestly dont remember what keyboard you have but ill take your works for it
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Really? Everyone else commented on how much it stood out, mainly because when they used it they had no idea where the keys were at. I used it at the first lan of mine that you went to. Maybe you could pick it out from this lineup?
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5636/p8270139yh8.jpg
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Devorak > all.
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lol! Theban is the language of the Thebes, not a keyboard layout, and I always use either QWERTY or QWERTZ as my layout.
The top left keyboard is my favorite, because of how loud the keys click, its AT, it has a TURBO key, it has lots of arrow keys, it has a 2nd set of function keys, it has a freakin calculator in it, and it has a metal plate in the bottom that makes it a very good weapon. I stick to my ergonomics and theban keyboards when I'm not out to beat someone though.
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lets see i can pick it out cause its been colored on... thats the only way. but you remember my bluetooth keyboard and mouse... they kick ass
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Yeah I do, I also remember making threats that I'd mess up their signal with my phone's bluetooth while you were ingame, lol. My phone has the power to kill speakers, microphones, radios, and almost anything else that I can get it near. I can't use wireless mice, they'd actually hit people when I throw them. Instead I've just got a messed up wall next to my desk from all the times that my heavy Fatal1ty mouse has went flying off my desk and hit the wall and then been caught by the cord. I'm one twitchy kid.
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shoulda killed my speakers when you guys were feeding it popcorn puffs i still have atleast 5 in there
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I got an idea, lets put a small cat in the woofer...and blast Doom music! NEDM!!! LOL!!!
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I will speak against it. Why? Get voice recon. That is all.
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Not everyone has mics. Just change the setting wow. Its lame to sit there and recon 4 lines of text and be temp banned for five mins. Stop being so stupid
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FYI
I think the server setting will stay, this will incourage other clans to use voice recon. Sorry. Just my opinion. Does not meen they wont change it. I had no time in the past week moving from condo to house to be able to address this.
More importantly, in addition to the free game servers each one of you has enjoyed a time or two , GT offers its Vent (live chat) for voice recon for matches, scrims or just to say whats up. If you are intrested in this free service contact any GT memeber, final say comes from Sharon.
I am sorry skeet did you post something that is new, orginal or something thought provoking? Thought so. All I saw was some whiney ass person "Moooing" becuase after all his self acclaimed prowless in DP can't afford a $10 microphone?
I am sorry sk8ter I really understand what you are saying and why. I just dont buy it. Why, you ask? Well becuase GT has mics, plus host servers for gaming, voice chat and yet we are the stupid, poor, drunk red necks? I wonder what kind of person is lower than a stupid, poor, drunk red neck? A person with out a mic. Dont be lower than us, please.
Next excuse please? *looks past skater
Edit comming from home
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Everyone uses ch1ll ts beacuse an outdated ventrilo client is lame.
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And because there's a TS Client for Linux 8)
GameComm is supposed to be coming out with a stable build soon too.
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Im not saying I dont have a mic. Im saying not everyone does. Just remove the darn spam flood. I remember playing on gt and being banned several times for saying "INC" like 3 times. Its lame.
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When did this become TS vs VENT, Smokette? If ts is what you like then go for it. Speaking of going... why are you posting here if you use chill's TS? Are you that bored? This about not using mm2 in matches for recon. Its outdated, worthless and any clan that uses it is worse off doing so. This comming from an Americas Army freakaziod who really likes location keys built into the map for recon. I know a its a little ironic. But at least you can 'Identify' with that. Being ironic. :)
Sk8ter the point of this thread was to make mm2 better, right? My point is dont bother. Force them to get voice recon. Its more effiective. Right? About being lame. You sure do know a lot about being this way.
If some people dont have a mic, well to sad to say this but to bad. Just those who did not cheat and perferred the q2 mod better. Or like the gun temp...to bad, take your freaking finger of the fire button Sir-sprays-o-lots.
*looks past those that use voice recon (skater / smokey) and still posts.
"Anyone else?"
Perhaps instead of kicking the server can mute the spammer for 5 min.? Either way dont use mm2 in a serious 4v4 match.
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sometimes i need to use mm2 in matches since my mic is a piece of crap (around 20 year old LabTec) it breaks up when my internet is whacking out so i need to use mm2 alot sometimes the point of this thread is try and point out that the flood kick is a problem for people like me and for people who have no mics. its just trying to get the hint across to gt admins to make their servers more wanted and appreciated by us people who try and match constantly
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GT pays for premium gaming. That is all Sharon wants is for you to enjoy the service. She might agree with you. I dont.
I belive that if you have a jacked up mic, dont match. I also belive if your isp is jacked up to the point of needing to use mm2 that you should not be matching. I say this for the good of your team.
Lastly there are those who have dial up or no money for anything else. You are welcomed to play on GT but just as long as you can enjoy your time with the limited resources at hand and you do not affect others gaming (idleing , pJ ed etc etc)
Thanks for your concerns I am now seeking that which you ask.
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telling me i cant play cause i lag bad and i shouldnt match without a mic thats straight up bullexcrement
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I agree with Spook. What's wrong with using messagemode2 (with moderation)?
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Loial you don't agree with anything you dont like. Look at it overall, youre completely wrong and ignorant.
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What's wrong with using messagemode2 (with moderation)?
Not one thing, other than there is a better method. Right? That should be encouraged and used.
telling me i cant play cause i lag bad and i shouldnt match without i mic thats straight up bullexcrement
Welcome to the world of non-free gaming my friend. I pay for $60 a month for cable not to mention my VPN on top of which to mention EV1 Loial's. More importantly she is paying for a whole host of servers. Period end of story.
With that said she agrees that is a bull excrement rule. :)
Sk8ter I just want what is best for newbs and semi-newbs like your self to make them better players to play against. Can you say or do any better?
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you know i dont give a flying intercourse what you pay for your excrement but telling me i shouldnt be able to play is bullexcrement and just dont speak when you have no clue what your talking about
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Cable? So that's why it lags...
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Problem 1.
You are getting what you want. :)
Problem 2.
You missed that fact. Sad
Problem 3.
Dont assume I know what you think. What is that?
Problem 4.
You dont give a intercourse what it takes. Just so long as you are enjoying yourself. Right?
Problem 5.
I have a lot of 'clues' I actually pay out of pocket just to be pissed on excrement on by the likes of you!!! Me matey??...Yarr!!!
Oh right!!! Sorry folks! On to 'Problem 5' .......why dont you bother to realize that voice recon owns any other form of recon and that everyone should use it. Dont rely on this crap. You will loose because of it one day.
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My god, Loial. Does it really matter to you whether or not other clans use voice recon?
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Jitspoe, can you please move all of these bullish posts to their own thread? Unbelievable how a valid topic morphs into something so pointless.
On another note, all GT Match servers do not require spec invites either.
Again, I absolutely love GT servers because I'm in cali and compared to ch1ll servers my ping is phoenominally better to them. I cannot say I can continue to use them if these settings are not fixed, and hopefully quickly. And as far as I know, we're pretty much the only clan who chooses to use them as their main match servers.
Loial, please do what you can bro, and with godspeed!
Thanks in advance.
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My god, Loial. Does it really matter to you whether or not other clans use voice recon?
My god if you cared about winning yes!!!! When was the last time that happend to you? Eiii?
eater its done.
With that said she agrees that is a bull excrement rule. Smiley
read please..... congrats.
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Big fat thanks to both Loial and Sharron!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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My god, Loial. Does it really matter to you whether or not other clans use voice recon?
My god if you cared about winning yes!!!! When was the last time that happend to you? Eiii?
I meant other clans. You're chastising clans that don't use voice recon, and it seems pretty elitist.
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Just curious... eiii, when was the last time you even played DP??? You're clearly a POST WH0RE and Jitspoe should duct tape your fingers!
The guys give a good example of a map where it is easy to flood yourself out with recon with the settings as they are. There are many good players that can fly through PP1 at lightening speed and I have watched many legitimately recon it that fast.
In a match environment there should NOT be a limit to how a specific team recons in mm2 to each other. I mean seriously why would you limit it to begin with? Is someone afraid your going to flood your own clanmates? Now that's a productive strategy!! LOL
I do however believe that MM1 should be limited especially on Pub servers.
eateR specifically what settings would you like to see changed and what would you like them set to and in the famous words of Captain Picard, I'll "Make is So." hehe ;D
On another note you guys spread the word encouraging others to post their favorite maplist here:
http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=3092.20
I know the community is bigger than 24 people and there is about 24 days left before the final results are tallied.
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I played a game somtime last week. It wasn't that good, no servers had decent maps on.
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wow i can believe what this ended up as once again loial proved how much of a culo he can be... if clans want to use text recon let them they shouldnt be forced to go out and buy a mic if they dont already have them... im sure the DP read me file doesnt say anything that u have to have a mic to play.. and i do use TS but i sometimes add text recon onto my voice recon.. i dont see why this has to be such a big problem... i hope it is fix like you say.. just wanted to say that this shouldnt have turn into something as big as it did.
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Yeah I am an ass and leetist for wanting clans to use ts. ::)
voice recon owns any other form of recon and that everyone should use it. Dont rely on this crap. You will loose because of it one day.
I just want all clans to have the same advantage. What exactly is leetist about that?
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voice recon owns any other form of recon and that everyone should use it. Dont rely on this crap. You will loose because of it one day.
I just want all clans to have the same advantage. What exactly is leetist about that?
It's not that you want other clans to have the same advantage-- it's that you're saying to get voice recon, or get off the server.
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Good lord eiii be quiet man!! He didn't say that at all... This post has been resolved now go back to bed and quit spamming the forum!! Jitspoe kill this post PLEASE so all the little magpie post sexually promiscuous persons will stop trying to up their post count... How long are you going to let this go on? Sheesh!
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Post? You mean thread?
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Yeah That too! LOL ;)
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It's not that you want other clans to have the same advantage-- it's that you're saying to get voice recon, or get off the server.
:o :o :o :o
No I said this.......
voice recon owns any other form of recon and that everyone should use it. Dont rely on this crap. You will loose because of it one day.
This is in your words not mine.........
it's that you're saying to get voice recon, or get off the server.
Big differnce. What are you thinking when you type this?
"mmmm loial is bad mmm i will get him mmmmm, yes may i have my red stapler mmmmm"
You dont even *work here.
*I ment play if you have not seen office space.
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Sk8ter the point of this thread was to make mm2 better, right? My point is dont bother. Force them to get voice recon. Its more effiective.
Perhaps instead of kicking the server can mute the spammer for 5 min.? Either way dont use mm2 in a serious 4v4 match.
I wonder what kind of person is lower than a stupid, poor, drunk red neck? A person with out a mic. Dont be lower than us, please.
So, what do I win?
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The worst avoidence post ever.
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Except it proves what I said before. In both those posts you say that people without voice recon should not play, or vice versa.
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Sounds like a buncha cackling hens in c0ck house!! How about doing something productive and enlighten me as to which settings eateR and some of the others are wanting changed so that those that are playing will have the ability to make their own choice. :o
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Hey! No! I'm the cow!
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Hahaha now we have a Paintball Zoo!!
Okay seriously though, anyone know the freakin commands that need to be set and what to set them too in favor of EateR's request? ???
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floodprotect 0 should keep people from being kicked, but I'm sure there's a better way than that...
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I think the floodprotect code is either on or off. I didn't write that. It was SmokeYa's doing, I think. I'd say turn it off on the match servers and leave it on in the pubs.
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So there is no seperate command that would cover mm2 and leave mm1 protected? Also, what of EateR's comment on spec invites in match servers... Ummm what is that and is there a command for that also?
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I don't think so. People can still be annoying spamming mm2, though -- they just annoy half the server instead of the whole server.
I think eateR was saying that observers could chasecam players without specinvites. Set observerblackout to 1 to fix that.
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Agreed but we're talking about Match servers in which case I don't believe teammates would purposely try to spam or annoy each other.
So on match servers ONLY set:
floodprotect off
observerblackout 1
And leave it to those matching to demo players who might spam or abuse the open settings. Then those clans can deal with their abusive clan mates accordingly.
Agreed?
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I kind of like the observer blackout even tho specing people is a pain but it avoids obs reconning.
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IMHO I'm not sure it's really fair to have anyone in a match that's not actually playing in the match... In other words it's not necessary to have anyone in obs and that eliminates the the chance players might be reconning in observe mode via voice chat.
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Its fine if theyre in obs as long as observer blackout is on.
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Observer Blackout does not work all the time or at least I found this out the first and only game I attempted to play when PBCuP had first started.
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In both those posts you say that people without voice recon should not play,
I recommend that if they are matching to avoid using mm2 to recon. There are better ways.
DT, touche. ;(
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You didn't 'reccomend' they use mm2. You said something along the lines of...
Force them to get voice recon.
You also called people who don't use voice recon stupid drunks. If that's your version of a reccomendation, I'm worried about your social skills. :D
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wow o enough said .. Use voice or type your fingers off who cares?? I want everyone to hush up and be good little kiddies and enjoy the game ...
Play with what you all are comfortable with and enjoy the game and quit whinning about every little thing that comes along... Good Lord I swear at least us woman has a name for all of this .. lets see ::) P.M.S lol PLEASE STOP FUSSING ABOUT EVERY LITTLE THING !!!!
On another note, We are working towards getting all requests fixed.. Please be patient with us old people.. Thanks again :)
Jits lock this before it gets any worse thank you
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sharon, unbane me.
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Skater,
That is something that will have to be discussed with Derrek or Doug .. I have nothing to do with it... They are the ones that run the server for me... They would be the ones to remove any bans.. End of story.
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Yes eii just like forcing them into playing better maps. ::) ::) ::)
I wish we could "force" them. For their sakes not mine. Until then its strongly forced recommendation.
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OKay All I think I have the match server configs adjusted as requested.
Jitspoe I used floodprotect 0 so I presume its 0 for OFF and 1 for ON. I've tested it and it worked.
I'm not sure if the observerblackout command is the same because you say set it to 1 to turn off the observerblackout. Well all the match servers were already set to 1. So I'll have to find a way to test that.
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Sharon: Snipen banned me in a way in which only he can remove it. Could you possibly contact him or give me his contact info so I can ask him? Thanks.
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observerblackout 1 turns ON the blackout, which means observers can't see during the match (unless specinvited).
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Well they are all set to 1 and it's not blacking out the observer so I'm lost. BTW How do you spec invite someone? Also, could you please remove Skater from this thread as I have repeatedly informed him that he will NEVER be unbanned from the GT servers. Please refer to this thread if you have forgotten skater http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=3112.0
Also, Sharon, whom is the OWNER of the servers has also instructed you as to what avenues you have available to you in this thread so again I'll just inform you that the GT clan, The GRaFFiTTI Owners and Administration including myself unanimously DO NOT WANT YOU ON THE SERVERS SO STOP ASKING!
F O R E V E R!!! means NEVER!! EVER EVER
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Yes picasso you have clearly stated he will be banned forever. So why don't you just ignore his requests? Wouldn't that make more sense then to continuously tell him he will never be unbanned? Something you have done a good 10 times.
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Picasso, shut the fck up . please. I asked sharon, not you.
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And she already answered you above Skater!
Lunatic it would make more sense that you agree that Skater needs to STOP asking rather than for you to expect me to NOT address his repeated and annoying requests in hopes that someone might feel sorry for him or something... This thread has nothing to do with Skater and I find your backwards response a bit strange.
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Doug, youre quite stupid. Derrek has tried to remove my ban but cant do to the fact that snipen banned me from the server box. I was told I'd be unbanned.
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Doug, youre quite stupid.
I'm sure they'll be rushing to get you unbanned now!
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picasso u should have enough restaint as an adult to not post back to skaters "idiotic posts" i mean if adults cant control themselves how do u expect for the younger generation to control themselves??? ponder on that for awhile and get back to me kthx
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- Cola, nothing I am saying or doing is out of line. I'm not mad, Out of control or anything you might have fabricated in your young mind. What's sad is that you throw out the "Adult" card as if you younger types expect to be excluded from any punishment for your own wrong doings. Rather than be embarrased by the way a person from your own age group has been acting for so long and calling him out for it you put the blame on an adult.
Show restraint?? You act as if I'm freaking out or something when I'm merely responding with nothing more than FACTS and information. Sadly though, some of you younger types fail to grasp those facts even after they have been repeated "10 Times"
If you wish to boast about "control" you need to direct your attention to some in your own age group. You could start with Skater.
- Skater, This has been covered before as well by Derrek and the rest of us. There was a time when we were going to lift the ban off the match server ONLY for your clan's sake, NOT yours. Yes, Derrek was about to remove the ban but again, you've destroyed any and all chances of that. Your continued attacks on me and repeated attacks on others in the past are the reason why the ban will not be removed.
So that others won't be bothered by the fact I am having to repeat myself, I'll do my best to refrain from responding to Skater's posts but I would hope that you'll be as quick to chastize him for his wrong doing.
Now, can we please stick to this thread's original intention or is Jitspoe going to have to lock yet another thread to deter the flamers?
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What in the world are you talking about you complete idiot. He told me this a month ago. I havent seen him since. How could I blow my chance? I dont even get the chance to talk to GT so I have no clue wtf youre talking about.
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Hello Everyone,
Let Me clear up some things.. Doug, very well said..
Skater, Snipen hasn't been here in some time and has left the servers for me to run as I see fit.. And Me being the owner of these servers I have chosen two people that I trust with these servers.. to run them.. update them and fix any problems that may occur..That being Derrek and Doug.. Although Doug isn't a Gt member He is my friend and has been for years for those of you that do not know that..And I trust his judgememts when it comes to running the servers right and being fair to each and every person that comes and goes in my servers.. I do not ask that anyone pay a dime. All I have ever asked for you all is that you be fair to one another, treat one another right ( which some of you haven't) and be nice to each other and have fun while playng on the servers.. It is really simple.. FOLLOW THE RULES that have been layed out like no hacks of any kind. And getting on the forums and putting down admins and the owners isn't going to help you. I feel as the owner, by looking through the forums and by your statements about me and things you have done in the past I have chosen NOT to remove the ban.. No one is responsible for your actions but you skater. And frankly I think me being the country hick that you claim that I am has been way to nice as it is and has allowed you in the servers way to many times before just to be abused by your actions. So I am taking the stand and saying NO.. SO, on this note. Drop it.. It isn't going to happen.. And believe it or not I am sorry to have to be so harsh about the choice I have made in this. But you put me where I had no choice in the matter.. I am tired of you putting down my firends, the servers, the clan. And as the Owner, Doug is doing what I told him to do.. Nothing more... Thanks to all that play! ENjoy!! :)
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- Cola, nothing I am saying or doing is out of line. I'm not mad, Out of control or anything you might have fabricated in your young mind. What's sad is that you throw out the "Adult" card as if you younger types expect to be excluded from any punishment for your own wrong doings. Rather than be embarrased by the way a person from your own age group has been acting for so long and calling him out for it you put the blame on an adult.
Show restraint?? You act as if I'm freaking out or something when I'm merely responding with nothing more than FACTS and information. Sadly though, some of you younger types fail to grasp those facts even after they have been repeated "10 Times"
If you wish to boast about "control" you need to direct your attention to some in your own age group. You could start with skater
i dont know where u got that i said ur mad or out of control.. and thats not the way i used the "adult card" i said as an adult you should set the example like i have been told many times through my childhood... i honestly dont care about how they act or wat they do they are kids noone can change them but themselves... all i am saying is you tell him not to keep bugging about being unbanned and there is now reason for you to keep telling him.. let him keep asking if he gets his jollies off that, be the bigger person and drop it... just let it go u know u told him if he didnt listen thats his own fault...
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Okay Fair Enough Cola... I'm tired of repeating myself anyway ;D
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Lol Jitspoe hit it on the head. GJ sk8ter.
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haha. It's ok. I've been banned for 98 months, I can manage.
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/me continues to ride the drama llama
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lol casso just thought i'd help u out a bit...
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Get off of me Bain.
Lol sk8ter how cute you are counting the time.
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Its an estimate. Im kinda glad I dont have to fulfill my urge of playing pub on GT servers filled with you and fun name newbies.
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Im kinda glad I dont have to fulfill my urge of playing pub on GT servers
Like OMG dude me too!! We have something in common. :o+ ;D=me
Curious if you are banned why bother posting anything about GT services? ::)