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Development => Mapping => Topic started by: [CC]CRASH on September 09, 2007, 06:48:09 PM

Title: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: [CC]CRASH on September 09, 2007, 06:48:09 PM
so i hear queenie made a junktastic map called propaintl and just ripped off of my map. doesnt this fall under the copyright laws or something of dp, i want this map deleted forever, its a disgrace to me and maps in general!
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: KiLo on September 09, 2007, 06:50:27 PM
I hear rumors about a propaint3 being made by Crash and I want to see it.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 09, 2007, 06:51:45 PM
I hear rumors about a propaint3 being made by Crash and I want to see it.

what does that have to do with the topic?

on topic: this map is horribad.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: [CC]CRASH on September 09, 2007, 06:53:08 PM
pp3 is pretty much done, i handed it over to Clipz to finish it so should prolly talk to him about it :P
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Spook on September 09, 2007, 06:54:56 PM
Ya, i DL'ed PPL, it was pretty bad, it used the propaint theme, but was just a disgrace to all the pp maps
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 09, 2007, 07:09:03 PM
pp3 is pretty much done, i handed it over to Clipz to finish it so should prolly talk to him about it :P

bad move. its going to end up coming out like this POS map.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: KnacK on September 09, 2007, 07:26:08 PM
Crash - Personally I wouldn't worry about it.  Since the map really is junk it wont get server time, if its on any servers as it is.

unfortunately there really isnt anything that can be done about map rip-offs except for server admins not to run it.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: lekky on September 09, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
So what happens when you're forced to play it in matches :'(
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Spook on September 09, 2007, 07:51:38 PM
It's already on the GT map list, or atleast we WERE just forced to play it in a scrim
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 09, 2007, 10:18:49 PM
i think it should be removed from any server that has it loaded. and burned/deleted/torn up/thrown away/or whatever. it just needs to go. its horrible.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Spook on September 09, 2007, 10:21:24 PM
it's a giant box >.<
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: DaRkNeSS on September 09, 2007, 10:35:47 PM
I actually like the map.  It's a lot more fun than propaint2 is.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: KiLo on September 09, 2007, 10:42:43 PM
I actually like the map.  It's a lot more fun than propaint2 is.

I will agree to that. But still everyone else is right.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: y00tz on September 09, 2007, 10:48:44 PM
What's wrong with creating a tribute map?  Did he try to pass it off as one in the series? No, and the name "legacy" could probably be changed to tribute to avoid confusion but I honestly don't see a problem with releasing a map that is clearly appreciating Crash's mapping ability.  The greatest form of flattery...
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 10, 2007, 02:29:12 AM
What's wrong with creating a tribute map?  Did he try to pass it off as one in the series? No, and the name "legacy" could probably be changed to tribute to avoid confusion but I honestly don't see a problem with releasing a map that is clearly appreciating Crash's mapping ability.  The greatest form of flattery...

from what i understand is that queenie asked crash if he could make a new/use the name propaint, and crash said no. and he still went ahead and did it.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: T3RR0R15T on September 10, 2007, 06:05:20 AM
I hear rumors about a propaint3 being made by Crash and I want to see it.
A very very very very very alpha: ftp://www.otb-server.de/pub/Maps/beta/pp3.bsp
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: magalhaes on September 10, 2007, 08:00:46 AM
It's a lot more fun than propaint2 is.
Not really.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: T3RR0R15T on September 10, 2007, 01:27:04 PM
The map looks not bad :P

1. Rename it !
2. Name it *_b1
3. Make a new topic for it
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Clipz on September 10, 2007, 08:42:14 PM
Yeah im working on it relax... how did that get out?

Who did you get that from terrorist...
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: QueeNiE on September 10, 2007, 08:47:52 PM
Firstly: I would like to point out that in my opinion that most (if not all) of [CC] are jerks.  Sorry for the prejudice, but I have come to this conclusion from your actions on IRC.

And yes, this map WAS meant to a tribute map, as I love the propaint maps, and NO it was NOT meant to rip off the propaint series.  I merely did not ask Crash because I thought in MY opinion that it was a decent map and that Crash would understand. (also I hardly ever see him anywhere like IRC)

And cola.  Jumping to conclusions like that is just stupid and ignorant.  Honestly think before you use those fingers of yours to type. I do have feelings.

And now:  I will change the name of my "garbage" map to something else.  Sorry to everyone, especially Crash. 

Any maybe next time guys if someone is in my position try not to get him so mad by telling him/her his map is "junk" and "garbage" repetitively on IRC and the forums and kb'ing / deluser'ing him/her from your channel on IRC.  Also, try not to clan-gang up on them.

It just makes you all look worse. 

And yes, I'm talking about you CC.

Regards,
Brock.


(QueeNiE * waits for the flame wars to start)
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: nightryder on September 10, 2007, 08:53:00 PM
whats it called now
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: FlaMe on September 10, 2007, 08:53:29 PM
Did I hear Flame wars? =P haha its cool Queenie, I like your maps
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: QueeNiE on September 10, 2007, 08:54:48 PM
Well some others don't :[
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Eiii on September 10, 2007, 08:55:22 PM
CC's actions in this have been less than appropriate- I can't say I can remember a time I've had much respect for them, and this just confirms my feelings. Queenie, however, should have asked if he could have made a map using 'propaint' in the name- it's just kind of common courtesy.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: QueeNiE on September 10, 2007, 08:56:55 PM
/me did realize this, but just didn't think it would get this out of hand. :(


I thought at VERY most they would have kindly asked me to change the name.  And well, I got this.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Apocalypse on September 10, 2007, 08:59:33 PM
Ummm... honestly I've never played it :-\
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Clipz on September 10, 2007, 09:07:13 PM
I was upset at first just told queenie to ask me or crash next time besides that i could careless. PP3.. will be the last of the series when i get around to finish it...
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Spook on September 10, 2007, 09:23:23 PM
What was your project with pp3 clipz?
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Clipz on September 10, 2007, 09:32:38 PM
What you mean? Crash gave me the .map file for pp3_beta1 now im going to finish it for him
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Spook on September 10, 2007, 09:33:38 PM
I meant, what do you need to finish
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 11, 2007, 01:50:09 AM

And cola.  Jumping to conclusions like that is just stupid and ignorant.  Honestly think before you use those fingers of yours to type. I do have feelings.


im sorry but i wasnt jumping to conclusions. i was having a conversion with CRASH via AIM and i mentioned to him that you had made a map using the propaint name. he responded by saying "what!? i told him not to." which to me meant you had asked him and he told you not to. so idk. which is why i posted that. OMGZZZ

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Any maybe next time guys if someone is in my position try not to get him so mad by telling him/her his map is "junk" and "garbage" repetitively on IRC and the forums and kb'ing / deluser'ing him/her from your channel on IRC.  Also, try not to clan-gang up on them.

excuse me. but i believe you were the one that started delusering and kb'ing people from your chan, so i dont get where you are going with that. dont dish it out if you can take it when it happens to you big boy. and we weren't "clan-ganging" it just so happened that most of our members dislike your map along with other people from other clans.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Olbaid on September 11, 2007, 02:25:31 AM
Firstly: I would like to point out that in my opinion that most (if not all) of [CC] are jerks.  Sorry for the prejudice, but I have come to this conclusion from your actions on IRC.

Please explain..

CC's actions in this have been less than appropriate- I can't say I can remember a time I've had much respect for them, and this just confirms my feelings.

What actions were 'less than appropriate'?
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Edgecrusher on September 11, 2007, 04:42:51 AM
Some thoughts that randomly appears in my mind:

1. I would never describe the whole clan as garbage (CC in this occasion), because when you have done it you labeled everyone in there and most of them I believe haven´t talked to you about this issue. So by doing that it just makes you the same as one you are arguing with.

2. As you said it´s the best to rename the map, maybe it should have been done earlier bit if the man dont wants it be named pp, dont name it.

3. I agree with QueeNie there that there´s no need to talk like that regardless what map looks like. Instead, give your opinion how he can better it.

4. Do not turn this into another flame fest, you all complain that clan sceene is falling appart, and how can it not when theres no help, seeing the both sides argument etc. regardin the thing that happend here. Noone is trying to be a bigger man here.

5. Peace nad respect.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: XtremeBain on September 11, 2007, 01:50:47 PM
I was the one !kbing him from #Team_CC
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: QueeNiE on September 11, 2007, 04:02:46 PM
Cola I believe when you AND dystro come into #allstarz and BOTH start yelling and whining about the map's quality, I think that maybe, just maybe that calls for some action.

And yes.  I said "most" of CC.  However, I did not use this in comparison with any other words, so "most" could still only mean a few individuals.

And cola, don't even talk.  Honestly.  I have never talked to Crash in the past year. (Probably more)  Let alone even seen him.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: XtremeBain on September 11, 2007, 04:13:33 PM
Why can't we leave IRC drama on IRC and the in-game drama in-game?  Then all the people who don't actually play this game or aren't ever on IRC wouldn't have to be subject to these flame wars.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Apocalypse on September 11, 2007, 04:28:37 PM
Why can't we leave IRC drama on IRC and the in-game drama in-game?  Then all the people who don't actually play this game or aren't ever on IRC wouldn't have to be subject to these flame wars.
Agreed or at least stop flaming.
I was the one !kbing him from #Team_CC
May I ask why?
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: XtremeBain on September 11, 2007, 04:35:14 PM
May I ask why?
You may ask on IRC, I'll be there in a couple hours.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: coLa on September 11, 2007, 07:29:23 PM
Cola I believe when you AND dystro come into #allstarz and BOTH start yelling and whining about the map's quality, I think that maybe, just maybe that calls for some action.

i wasnt yelling or whining, i was merely stating how much i disliked your map. thats all. if you felt the need to deluser and kb me then by all means do it. i am not complaining about that because honestly i could careless. it just means 1 less channel i have to idle. but when it happens to you dont cry about it because i mean its only the internet. its not something to base your life on. kb me all you want you wont hurt my feelings sir, sorry.

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And cola, don't even talk.  Honestly.  I have never talked to Crash in the past year. (Probably more)  Let alone even seen him.

why shouldnt i talk? thats what he told me. its not my fault he gave me false information. chill out dawgy. ill apologize for that. but nothing more.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Apocalypse on September 11, 2007, 08:52:07 PM
You may ask on IRC, I'll be there in a couple hours.
I would but I can't get on IRC because I'm not at home right now which is retarted but oh well :-\
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: blaa on September 12, 2007, 09:37:35 AM
And yes.  I said "most" of CC.  However, I did not use this in comparison with any other words, so "most" could still only mean a few individuals.

hahahahhahahha, thats some clever logic
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Edgecrusher on September 12, 2007, 03:57:28 PM
Pointless, he´ll rename the map. Close this.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: Bix on September 14, 2007, 07:53:01 PM
First off, i am talking for CC here.

Propaint Legacy, Queenie, decent map, some of the jumps aren't put in the right place. You could have made it less easy to cap. Map is too fast, always 5-7 mins long.

Again to Queenie, you didn't have the right to name it what you named it.

Finally, for anything CC has said, forgive them. Purely for the fact that Queenie made it and its name is most likely the reason people aren't going to play it.
Title: Re: Propaint Legacy? What is this junk?
Post by: QueeNiE on September 14, 2007, 10:08:27 PM
I believe sI was using it for their match map a few days ago.  But I could be mistaken.


Your move, sherlock.