XtremeBain, I think there's some misunderstanding here.
The commitee is not installed to spot/catch hackers, but to make sure people can have a good time playing this game. To make sure people can enjoy this game, you have to filter out the rotten parts of it. This can be done by banning the cheating players and making clear rules for everyone.
As you are one of the developpers of this game, I trust you are aware of the limited possibilities of catching hackers. The history proved one of the most successful ways to spot hackers is to check their demo's, to see their "playing behaviour" and spot (potential) suspicious things. In order to give everybody in this community the opportunity to do this, we are thinking of setting up some standards for demo's. We have been discussing this in the commitee sector and the most realistic idea we had so far is to oblige all players (mainly the active matching scene) demo's of their matches, so they can be provided to whoever wants to check them.
I don't know if you have been checking the forums lately, but there are tons of threads for people asking for demo's. Apparently there are enough players who give reason for suspection. Some of these threads can never be answered, as the player refuses to upload his demo, or simply because he didn't have it. Since you will probably not get caught for hacking when you don't provide your demo, the most common excuses we see are "I deleted it" or "I stopped my demo's at the beginning. This blocks the process of spotting hackers, causing that they will have no ban. For your info: the players are asking for these demo's,
in most cases the commitee has no interest in these case until there are clear evidences!In order to make sure all demo's will be available, there has to be set up a new rule, either clientsided, or serversided. Since serversided would cause lot more extra scripting and data transfer, we tought that making the solution clientsided, we'd keep it "easy" by obliging all players to keep their demo's for a limited time of 7 days. This will give everybody enough time to request the demo if necessary and will not take unnecessary much harddrive space (with the current activity in the game, we calculated this should be max. 50 mb). Any computer that can be used to play this game should be able to handle this.
I hope all you guys understand this thread is in no way meant to "extend" the influence (or for doomthinkers; power) of the commitee. We are just trying to help the people who are requesting a certain demo to actually get it. In order to achieve this, we have tried to use our brains (which might of course be the reason of the failure
) and have tought of a possibility to tackle this problem.
If anyone else has a better idea, his/her inputs are very welcome! @anti-cheat system in general; The reason we have decided to ask the community for their views on this "solution", is because taking "technical measures" (like programming additional software) will probably take a lot of time. Furthermore this system will get outdated quickly, as certain players will keep finding ways to avoid the cheat detection systems.
Again, any offers for help are very welcome!I thought the purpose of the committee was just for voting on ban times of caught cheaters and dealing with abuse issues that are not outlined in the rules. When did these members become qualified to examine demos and spot wallhackers? I doubt that jitspoe is giving committee members wallhacks to replay these demos in, and then voting on whether they think the player is hacking or not. I wouldn't want to see anyone give their demo to these "decision makers" only to banned because a few random people think they hack.
I don't know where you got this idea from. Like I stated above, it's not our main activity to check demo's and spot hackers.
Last but not least; why are you suggesting Jitspoe would have given the commitee members hacks to check demo's for the use of it? The 2 cases that showed up lately were produced by someone from the community that can not be related to the communitee. Although I consider them as useful, I can not imagine the creation of these videos was request by the commitee.
I think our main goal should always be cleaning up the cheaters, not to actually become one.
