zoogooz vid...

[Dirty_Taco]

What are you talking about? That was choice 3 idiot.

"Hobo: Camping, backshooting, whatever also takes skill in my opinion." Thank you, that made my day.

If you think I'm wallhacking, watch the demo and see if I am. In fact, I'll send you any demo out of my demos folder you want.

[loial21]

LOL Idiot? What is Merl's 'first' point about maturity on this thread?

I then thought you agreed with this point as its more on topic then his second first point (which you agreed with) Being scared about matching. Dude its an FPS comon.

You were not CLEAR enough were you?. Which number '1' point you agreed with. How am I supposed to know what you are posting if you dont specify which talking point you were reffering to.

Comon DT your smarter and nicer than this.

[Dirty_Taco]

"Being scared about matching. Dude its an FPS comon." <--- You'd be very surprised.

[MeRL]

Well i'm glad you at least chose something out of the list instead of saying something along the lines like "0MfgORZ! i choose 21324" which is what i expected.
In any case congrats for that. But now that you've chosen number 1 (clans being afraid to lose), sarcastic or not about your answer, it leads me to repeat to you what i wrote about not caring.

2. IF you think i'm afraid of chalking up a loss, think again. Tell you what, challenge my team to a match. I'll accept and then we won't show but instead we'll be playing a different team, a team who WON'T cause a fiasco after every kill. and when i'm done i'll add at least 1 loss for not showing up to yours.

In other words, I'll add a lose for no apparent reason (other than not showing up) but yet i must be afraid to lose, or so  Pierce the "hacker catcher" believes.

[loial21]

In responce to DT.

NO I am at the paying persons responce. Are you one?

1.Anyone can walk into a server and start talking excrement to every clan and any person. It takes a special excretory opening to suck the fun out of this game.

2.Despite how much I payed with the intention for people to act civil. With out worrying about abuse. There is always people that dont give a excrement? Which are you?

kids drinking and posting dont mix.

edited. for your viewing pleasure.

[Playah]

So you see, it's got nothing to do with record or "honor" or that crap. It's all about being able to enjoy a game for free without the constant complaining.

3 - All those clans are just fed up with the lack of maturity within er33t - VERY good possibility.

[Brewsky]

Wow after reading all of this, I'm stunned. All accusations and results are inconclusive. DT, I know you feel strongly about the wallhack, but you cannot say zoogooz hacked if we dont have 100% proof. Why are there so many useless arguments in this thread?

Let me make an official statement on behalf of Crossbones, which is we believe in 100% fair play. If we were to discover anyone using cheats, double clanning, etc. on our team, they are done for.

If you want to know how to RIGHTFULLY accuse someone of hmmm lets say, double clanning, refer to the 04/22/06 when xb matched team_i and we gathered conclusive evidence of Digi double clanning under a different alias, and only until we KNEW FOR SURE did we take action.  Gibb, that Oh snap thing was hilarious.

[loial21]

Shakes Head. None of my business and not all that suprising.

[Dirty_Taco]

"Shakes Head. None of my business and not all that suprising." <-- If it's none of your business, why post?

"All accusations and results are inconclusive" Wrong. I find it extremely conclusive as do a handful of people.

"but you cannot say zoogooz hacked if we dont have 100% proof" I think we do have 100% proof as do a handful of people.

"Why are there so many useless arguments in this thread?" <-- Agreed.

I don't know if digi was double clanning, and i haven't seen your conclusive evidence. However, it wouldn't surprise me given that xb has secured their 1-20 (approxiamtely) record against us. Is digi justifed in double clanning for one match just so he can play xb? I'd say yes, but I'm an interested biased party. Furthermore, double clanning isn't something I'm too worried about outside of PBCup, wallhacking is much more important.

By the way, I know for sure zoogooz was wallhacking, there is no doubt in my mind.

P.S. I hear it was a pretty harsh loss.

[Blitz]

<insert more drama here>

[MeRL]

However, it wouldn't surprise me given that xb has secured their 1-20 (approxiamtely) record against us

Woooow all i can do is laugh...considering xb has played er33t a total of 5 times. I have the ss's to prove all but two or three of our matches that happened in the early stages. That's a pretty wild estimate hacker catcher. You're sounding more like bob and digi.

That's alright though, whatever helps you sleep at night darling.

Oh and by the way, the handful of people you speak of, can you name a few for us? People OTHER than er33t members?

I'm also curious, even though double clanning isn't exactly considered cheating, it's been frowned upon in DP ever since QW but yet you sit there and say that it's justified. I can't really say i'm surprised with your answer seeing as it's a fellow clan member who did it.

Don't blame us for the declining number of matches that er33t has been able to participate in ( as digi put it ), because you fellas did this to yourselves with the lack of respect and above all else, lack of maturity in game. Refer to previous posts of mine within this thread.

Oh, can't forget...lack of "honor"  if honor even has anything to do with DP. <-- that's for you Pierce the Warrior.

[oddjob]

As for the proof about digi
 
[18:57] * d|bbl (~fsdfdsf@CPE0050bfa320c8-CM00e06f15560a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[22:45] <Brewsky> <XtremeBain> [22:35] * Dns resolved 69.196.53.197 to CPE0050bfa320c8-CM00e06f15560a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
[22:45] <Brewsky> <XtremeBain>   0     0   44 {i}pod               10 69.196.53.197:61905   37228

*note that the clan tag was changed because [.i] is the command to italicize

There is the definitive proof of the ip matching.

Now, skater claims that he had no knowledge of digi playing.
[22:51] <MeRL> did u know it was digi?
[22:51] <SkateR> nah

Yet.... 1 min previous....
[22:50] <SkateR> Jitspoe had no problem with it
[22:50] <SkateR> its ok.
That shows that he knew about it even though he lied
I asked jitspoe if he told digi he could double clan..

[02:20] <oddjob> did you tell digi that he could double clan?
[02:20] <jitspoe> I think I told him I would prefer he not
[02:24] <jitspoe> [14:20:43] <jitspoe> Well, it might set a bad example, so I wouldn't encourage it, but there's not really anything I can do to stop it, either.

Now in addition this was grabbed off of the ch1ll server we were playing on.
[23:03] <XtremeBain> [OBS] ([.i]prodigy): who's ipod
[23:03] <XtremeBain> [OBS] ([.i]Spook): thats digi i believe
[23:03] <XtremeBain> [OBS] ([.i]prodigy): mm makes sense

I doubt spook was more informed than skater was.

Anyways I didnt want to drag xbain or jits into this, but I feel its needed for proof.

[Dirty_Taco]

Maybe MeRL doesn't understand the word approximately. Doesn't surprise me though. Even if the total record is something like 1-5, you've been reluctent to match us since day 1.

Off the top of my head i'd say skater, smokey, royalblood (it seems) other [.i] members. I'd have to ask others to find out.

People have been afraid to match eR33t since day 1 too. You can't tell me thats not the truth. I used to be one of those people. Inference to the best explanation for a declining number of matches tells me people are afraid.

I'd rather play a group of all double clanners that played in an honorable manner (i.e. not camping behind objects to shoot people in the back, or wallhacking) than a group of people not double clanning that used these cheap tactics. I'm sure most would agree with me, MeRL the dwarf.

[jitspoe]

I'm going to lock this before it gets too out of hand.  Recent posts have been getting off topic anyway.