Author Topic: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping  (Read 9149 times)

SuperMAn

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Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« on: January 24, 2014, 05:37:42 PM »
Hello,

Help me prevent spawn camping by posting what maps have spawn camping problems.

  I will create .ent files to edit the spawn points to help fix the problem.

.ENTs to be created


1.  armagon
2.  indune
3.  encounter
4.  grave
5.  tunnels
6.  spaint
7.  nml
8.  
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10.



Completed .ENTs
To download the .ent files right click and select "Save Link As...".  Save the file in your paintball2/pball/maps/ent directory.  For beta maps save the file in your paintball2/pball/maps/ent/beta directory.  You only really need to download the files if you are running a server or playing alone.

1.   ub_rooftop            -   Download
2.   duck_fix                -   Download
3.   shazam22              -   Download
4.   wobluda_fix           -   Download
5.   beta/banliue13_b1  -   Download
6.   shazam33              -   Download
7.   airtime3                 -   Download
8.   beta/pgptrain_b4    -  Download
9.   ub_cliff                  -   Download
10. dhemap                 -   Download
11. theice                   -   Download
12. xbmap1                 -   Download
13. wipa                      -   Download
14. napalm                  -    Download
15. frostbit2                 -   Download
16. cream                    -    Download
17. nolandr                   -   Download
18. kalcastle                 -    Download
19. castle1                 -    Download
« Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 07:58:18 AM by SuperMAn »

Toxiic

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Re: Help Me Prevent Spawn Camping
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 05:42:16 PM »
Wob, pp1, shock, airtime 1-3 can't remember anyother map(maybe its not comming in my mind atm)

Fixed the title ;P

LaZeRs

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 05:44:08 PM »
+wobluda_fix
+beta_pgptrain_b4
+shazam22

Wob, pp1, shock, airtime 1-3 can't remember anyother map(maybe its not comming in my mind atm)

Fixed the title ;P
I think he was trying to make the title like that. ;D

SuperMAn

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 05:55:17 PM »
I think he was trying to make the title like that. ;D

Yeah.. my sad attempt at a pun.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 05:56:18 PM »
Wobluda, london

SuperMAn

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 05:58:41 PM »
Wob, pp1, shock, airtime 1-3 can't remember anyother map(maybe its not comming in my mind atm)


I don't think spawn killing is a major problem on any of the airtime maps.  I suppose I could make everyone spawn with a gun though.

I don't think I can do anything to shock without drastically changing the gameplay.  The spawns are really in the only place they can be already.


Wobluda, london

I will have to take a look at london, I thought the spawns were spaced out well there.  I don't play it that often.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 06:25:08 PM »
I will have to take a look at london, I thought the spawns were spaced out well there.  I don't play it that often.
There is one spot in the alley to the right of the base where one could camp and cover every point. Either you spawn right in their line of fire or you must pass through that section in order to go anywhere.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 06:46:31 PM »
Wob,...
+wobluda_fix
Wobluda...

wobluda_fix is sort of a tricky one.  I think it still gets played a lot in matches so I don't want to change the location of the spawns too much.  I think I can make something work well though without giving any spawn point too much of a head start.


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There is one spot in the alley to the right of the base where one could camp and cover every point. Either you spawn right in their line of fire or you must pass through that section in order to go anywhere.
Took a look at london and the spawns are already spaced out well.  I think the problem you are talking about is more of a map design flaw.  Only way to really fix it is to place spawns outside the base, which would ruin the map in my opinion.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2014, 07:57:50 PM by SuperMAn »

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 08:08:09 PM »
wobluda_fix is sort of a tricky one.  I think it still gets played a lot in matches so I don't want to change the location of the spawns too much.  I think I can make something work well though without giving any spawn point too much of a head start.
Just make the spawns in wobluda spawn not in a LINE so newbs can't sit right against the wall and spawnkill.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 07:07:07 AM »
ub_cliff, shazam33, ub_abbey

SuperMAn

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 08:12:38 AM »
Just make the spawns in wobluda spawn not in a LINE so newbs can't sit right against the wall and spawnkill.
ub_cliff, shazam33, ub_abbey

I can stagger the spawn points on ub_cliff and wobluda_fix so it isn't as easy for spawn killers.

Can't really do much to shazam33.  Spawns are already spaced out well.  I could possibly add a couple more spawn points in the base so that you don't spawn in the back corner as often.  That is where most of the spawn killing happens.


Not sure what I'd do to ub_abbey.  It has a dedicated spawn room so I don't want to start adding spawns outside that room.  More of a map design flaw I think.  Just like propaint1.  The only way to fix spawn camping on these maps is some actual spawn protection.



Edit:  Finished the .ent for wobluda_fix.  Spawn points have been staggered a bit and I added an additional one just inside the tunnel to flag two.

Edit 2:  Finished beta/banliue13_b1.  Blue team has equal quality guns to yellow now.

Edit 3:  Finished shazam33, the original spawn points in shazam33 were already well done. I only added a single one on the little ledge inside the base.

Edit 4:  Finished airtime3.  All spawns now have carbines & removed all carbines from the ground.

Edit 5:  Finished beta/pgptrain_b4.  Added a few additional spawns in each base and made the red spawn points face forwards instead of backwards.

Edit 6:  Finished ub_cliff.  Added four spawn points on the same level as the flag in each base.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2014, 04:13:40 PM by SuperMAn »

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 12:02:43 AM »
Should upload the blitz.bsp .ent file. (Or make another :P)

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 09:50:17 AM »
Should upload the blitz.bsp .ent file. (Or make another :P)

Done =).  blitz.ent

Not going to put that one on my list though since the only way to avoid spawn killing on blitz is to not play it.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2014, 10:03:03 AM »

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2014, 10:53:19 AM »
I'm guessing you can do eclissi?
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=26853.0

Yeah not sure what is going on there, doesn't seem like a spawn point problem.


I completed the .ent for dhemap.  Spawns are all over the base now instead of in a straight line.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 02:22:35 PM »
All spawn points are fine on eclissi, idk why it's bugging out.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2014, 04:32:03 PM »
wipa,
minispeed,
beta/pgptrain_b4

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2014, 04:57:07 PM »
wipa,
minispeed,
beta/pgptrain_b4

Added to the list.  


Also finished the .ent for theice.  Put spawn points around each corner, and a couple on the sides of the flags.


Edit:  Finished xbmap1.  Spawns are spaced out around the base now.

Edit2:  There was a problem with the duck_fix.ent.  It is now fixed.  Files in the first post have been updated.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2014, 05:58:16 PM by SuperMAn »

LaZeRs

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2014, 09:27:13 PM »
On shazam33, I'm kind of sick of spawning on the tiny ledge on the wall. (See picture)

It's weird for new players because they might think the game is glitchy and other players think they're floating in air.

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Re: Help Me Prev.ent Spawn Camping
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2014, 09:50:49 PM »
I couldn't think of any where else to put a spawn point =p.  I can change it if it is really a problem.