I'm not going to bother looking at the models right now because, a) I'm at my parent's house, using their computer, and b) Isn't that long past history now? I recall seeing a screenshot of the wolf model years ago. Can't you let it go? People get accused of cheating all the time in this (and pretty much any FPS) game, even me. Digi seemed to express that he didn't think you hacked, in his own rude way, yet you're both still slinging mud at each other. That's what you're guilty of. I don't care who started it. We're not in kindergarten anymore. You may have been kids when this all started, but you're adults now. Act like it.
Also, c) whether or not you used some quake2 wolf models and they gave you any kind of advantage has absolutely no bearing on the case with zoogooz. If you want to contribute to this discussion, review the demo and comment on whether or not you think it is sufficient evidence to prove zoogooz was wallhacking, otherwise do as rez suggested and "quit with the unnecessary interruptions."
S8N: I guess I have no sense of humor, then, because I don't think photoshopping people's faces on homosexual porn is funny.
Back on topic: I reviewed the demo both with and without a wallhack (this was one of the wallhacks sent to me so I could add detection for it, if anybody is wondering). There were some questionable spots, and even a part that I thought was a dead giveaway with the wallhack on, until I compared it with the wallhack off and realized that he had view of the players before shooting at them. A video showing scenes like this solely with the wallhack enabled could be misguiding.
I think the critical problem with this demo is that there's so little of it from ZoogooZ's perspective. Making a video with just a couple of questionable clips in it doesn't really prove anything. We all do things that could be interpreted as a wallhack. Sometimes it's just blind luck. Most of the time it's based on experience with the map and understanding where players will typically be located.
Even some parts of the demo from DirtyTaco's perspective could be used as "evidence" that DirtyTaco was using a wallhack. Please don't take this to mean I'm accusing DirtyTaco of wallhacking. He wasn't, but you could take the scene, for example, where he throws a grenade directly at somebody on the other side of the wall, and then starts shooting at that person on the other side of the wall. At least, that's what it looks like with the wallhack on. With it off, you see that DirtyTaco was aware of somebody on the other side of the wall from spray and whatnot, and fell back and sprayed the stairs in case the person decided to chase after him. It just so happened that the person did not chase after him, but instead happened to position himself directly in DirtyTaco's line of spray on the other side of the wall.
I guess my whole point in all this is that if you have preconceptions that somebody is (or isn't) cheating, you can come up with explanations and select just the portions that support your claim and ignore the rest. If I'm going to err, I'd prefer to err on the side of innocence. I've already wrongly accused and banned one innocent player, and I don't want to do it again.
Also, I can't stress the importance of recording demos during matches. There were 8 people playing, and there's only one demo which included less than half of the match? If there were more, perhaps we could come to some kind of conclusion. I heard somebody say he was cheating much more blatantly on midnight. Where's your proof? Er33t should know better than anybody that unsupported cheating accusations are a major annoyance in this community.
I'd be curious to see some match demos from ZoogooZ's perspective, even if they aren't from this match. I'd just like to see how he plays. Also, everybody should update to build 16 if they haven't already, as that should at least reduce the possibility of using known cheats.
