Official Feature Vote of 2007

[Cobo]

I dont know if this has been mentioned but how about mp3 support?
Also, count me for saving the command history except that I think it should be done in a cvar (Thats the way tremulous does it), not a file.

[jitspoe]

25: faster in-game downloading - jitspoe, Smokey, Tinman, Gremlin, P!nk, eiii, atte, b00nlander, SkateR, Playah, ViciouZ, nightryder, oli887, toM|vendettA, Gold_Leader, l1g, Clipz, Sharp, Waggot, Zorchenhimer, basilo, Sandwraith, kNoC, y00tz, Nitroboy
12: More high-res textures - Gremlin, bitmate, b00nlander, SkateR, oli887, Gold_Leader, l1g, TinMan, MosheD, Spook, Sandwraith, spacepirate
11: Vwep (see what weapons people are carrying) - bitmate, KnacK, XtremeBain, SmackWaters, SkateR, ViciouZ, toM|vendettA, Gold_Leader, Waggot, basilo, eiii
8: New map format - P!nk, eiii, bitmate, b00nlander, Cobo, ViciouZ, Zorchenhimer, {appy Hamper
8: (Option to) disable colored text in chat - Anarchy, SkateR, Clipz, Waggot, basilo, KiLo, Spook, TinMan
7: Increase paintball visibility - S8NSSON, PiCaSSo, oli887, Dirty_Taco, nightryder, Playah, Spook
7: Central server for mapinfo files - jitspoe, DirtyTaco, T3RR0R15T, eiii, TinMan, nightryder, KiLo
6: (Option to) disable funnames - Spook, eiii, TinMan, Clipz, basilo, KiLo
6: Leaning - magalhaes, atte, bitmate, ViciouZ, Sandwraith, kNoC
6: Client-side demo auto-recording - Zorchenhimer, XtremeBain, magalhaes, Spook, {appy Hamper, TinMan
6: New gun models (such as the Angel) - Gremlin, iEATnoobs, l1g, Clipz, Sandwraith, Nitroboy
5: Don't require mouse to be over edit fields to type - oli887, jitspoe, Sharp, basilo, T3RR0R15T
5: Client-side auto end-game scoreboard screenshot - XtremeBain, Spook, {appy Hamper, TinMan, SuperMAn
4: Kill cam (like in CoD) - nightryder, toM|vendettA, l1g, enozpp57
4: Female player model - T3RR0R15T, SmackWaters, Spook, magalhaes
4: Screenshot system for cheat detection - ch40s, Clipz, Sharp, SuperMAn
4: Vote kick - SmackWaters, nightryder, Sharp, Sandwraith
4: Better bot AI - P!nk, jitspoe, ViciouZ, QueeNiE
4: Global-login based bans - XtremeBain, KiLo, T3RR0R15T, SuperMAn
4: Save console command history to a file so when you load the game up again, you can hit the up arrow to get the last typed command. - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T, TinMan, Cobo
3: Global-login based logins (ops) - XtremeBain, jitspoe, T3RR0R15T
3: PK3's - Smokey, b00nlander, TinMan
3: In-game voice communication (VoIP) - SkateR, Clipz, ch40s
3: Dashing - SkateR, Dirty_Taco, magalhaes
3: Map-specific chat logging (so we can get player feedback on the maps on the beta server). - jitspoe, magalhaes, ViciouZ
3: Wall jumping - SkateR, Dirty_Taco, Sandwraith
3: Round countdown timer for siege maps. - KnacK, magalhaes, Zorchenhimer
3: Wave animations - T3RR0R15T, Zorchenhimer, TinMan
3: New sounds - iEATnoobs, nightryder, TinMan
3: Variables in menu widgets (for map preview screenshots) - Zorchenhimer, l1g, {appy Hamper
3: Ability to use embedded quotes (so people can have spaces in their names when set from the menu) - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T, {appy Hamper
3: Option to set crosshair size - jitspoe, Spook, TinMan
3: Team autobalance - ch40s, TinMan, magalhaes
3: Mouse fix for vista - digi, SkateR, y00tz
3: Sort buttons on (in-game) server list - oli887, TinMan, SuperMAn
3: Support for left and right mouse wheel. - KnacK, Spook, Nitroboy
2: New (selectable) player skins - bitmate, iEATnoobs
2: New menu format - Cobo
2: Grapple - loial21, ch40s
2: Sharp turns -SkateR, Dirty_Taco
2: Map pack. - oli887, Gold_Leader
2: Work on the player models - Clipz, Sharp
2: Weapon and item autoswitching - jitspoe, oli887
2: Customizable word filter - {appy Hamper, jitspoe
2: Allow angles to be used for func_rotating so s8n can finish his catapult map. - jitspoe, ViciouZ
2: Global-login STDLogs logging - XtremeBain, T3RR0R15T
2: Map notifications for standalone serverbrowser - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T
2: Ability to add clan tags to player models - Clipz, T3RR0R15T
2: Scroll bar in the console - oli887, T3RR0R15T
2: Optimize file checking to reduce load times and game hiccups/freezing - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T
2: Don't try to download textures if an rscript exists for that texture name. - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T
2: Download textures required by rscripts. - jitspoe, T3RR0R15T
2: Places to enter IP and password in the join game menu. - nightryder, Spook
2: Standardized matching rules - iEATnoobs, magalhaes
2: Server list filters - Anarchy, TinMan
2: Get rid of player model in first-person chase cam view. - nightryder, TinMan
2: Ability to choose the other team's color - Clipz, TinMan
2: Use libcURL for people having issues downloading the serverlist and connecting to the login server - jitspoe, TinMan - using UDP instead
2: Option to set crosshair color - PiCaSSo, TinMan
2: Flashing flags on HUD - kNoC, TinMan
2: Cvar that stores the map name - KnacK, TinMan
2: Ability to select and copy text. - kNoC, TinMan
2: Make the loc file system use the closest visible loc, not just the closest - b00nlander, jitspoe
1: Bombing run game mode - T3RR0R15T
1: Menu links to download more maps - Gremlin
1: More cheat detection - Gremlin
1: Ugly Q3 name colors  - TinMan
1: In-game clock (with alarm) - abrken
1: Enlarge lists (server lists, scoreboard, etc.) to display more characters - abrken
1: Indicator for password-protected servers - abrken, magalhaes
1: "Best of" page to display the most popular maps / best players - abrken
1: 2-layer textures (might require a new map format) - S8NSSON
1: Random texture selection - S8NSSON
1: Context dropdowns in scoreboard for ignoring, etc. - Playah
1: In-game chat (Connect to IRC server, perhaps?) - oli887
1: Allow all maps supporting 1-flag mode to be playable in PONG mode - jitspoe
1: Alphabetize map and demo names - nightryder
1: Setting to chasecam just enemy players - iEATnoobs
1: Add a column to the scoreboard that calculates skill or performance - Uncle
1: Option to disable "blocking" for jump maps - Clipz
1: Optimize water code for better framerates - Sharp
1: Change the main menu screen - Sharp
1: More DSM options for entities (so I can finish pbcup/arctic_dsm) - jitspoe
1: Option to set text color - PiCaSSo
1: Tie the wiki into the global login system to prevent abuse / spambots. - jitspoe
1: Add support for bulleted lists to the wiki. - jitspoe
1: Add image uploading functionality to the wiki. - jitspoe
1: Fix bug on wiki where 3rd level header sometimes gets merged in with the text instead of being put on a new line. - jitspoe
1: Laser entities - Clipz
1: Don't load all rscripts for every map -- just the ones that are applicable. - jitspoe
1: Akimbo (dual wield) feature - {appy Hamper
1: 64bit Linux support - Phenax
1: Client-side setting for "id" - basilo
1: Somehow make the loading image compatible with non-US keyboards. - basilo
1: Allow loading/saving configs anywhere on the filesystem. - basilo
1: Melee attack (barrel tag? paintbrush?) - enozpp57, TinMan
1: Support for regular expressions in menus. - Zorchenhimer
1: Get rid of the old-style scoreboard at the end of the game - XtremeBain
1: Add a button in the bind menu for fastforwarding demos? - Playah
1: Display topspeed on the scoreboard. - lekky
1: .skm shadows (used on the new player model) - kNoC
1: Self-reflection in the water -  kNoC
1: Password reset option for global logins - jitspoe
1: Central repository for textures and other content - kNoC
1: Tie global login accounts to forum accounts - y00tz
1: Hardware bans - Anarchy
1: Increase limit for loc files - b00nlander
1: If the number of entities exceeds the maximum allowable, start removing paintballs instead of causing a fatal error. - jitspoe
1: If the server has a fatal error, try to load a map rather than leave the server down. - jitspoe
1: Make the server not hog all the CPU if there is a fatal error. - jitspoe
1: Ability to customize player appearance (different jerseys, pants, etc.). - Nitroboy
1: A mod install pack with gui interface that includes a comprehensive user guide with demonstrations of all tweaks. - loial21

I think that this has been talked about before and the outcome was that it is not happening. I also believe that it was considered cheating because you can make yourself harder to see for the other team, which obviously is an unfair advantage.

If I am wrong about the above please correct me.

I would like to have customizable characters at some point.  That was part of the reason for the new player models.  Each different part (gloves, mask, face, shoes, pants, etc.) has a different texture.  There would also need to be an option to disable custom skins to prevent people from being cheap and using hard-to-see textures.

Thank you soooo much  

Is there anymore explination on the faster in-game downloading?  I think I get what it means, so i'm voting for it too.

You know how it takes like 5 minutes to download a map from a server when it could be done in just a few seconds?  That's what we're talking about.

I dont know if this has been mentioned but how about mp3 support?
Also, count me for saving the command history except that I think it should be done in a cvar (Thats the way tremulous does it), not a file.

I would add ogg (vorbis) before mp3.  It's a better format -- has open standards, isn't encumbered by patents / copyrights / whatever, and has source code readily available.  I think there are some legal issues with implementing mp3, and it may not even be compatible with the GPL.

As for the command history -- cvars are written to a file already, so it doesn't really make much of a difference.  The problem with storing it in a cvar, though, is that you couldn't save any commands that used quotes.  Also, some people have already run into issues with their config files getting too large.  I've increased the buffer size, but I'd prefer not to add anything else to the config file that isn't necessary.

[Gold_Leader]

Jits you can put my vote with the increase paintball visibility as well.  I do find it rather hard to see them at times.

[y00tz]

I think there are some legal issues with implementing mp3

You would be very correct.

[ViciouZ]

Maybe at one point in the future (not build 18) you should concentrate on a graphics/audio build to get more people playing, e.g. in one build have ogg support, ragdoll deaths, better textures, vwep, models, mp3 player, customisable models etc.
This way, when new players start playing because the graphics are good, the gameplay is already likely to have been perfected and is less likely to change, causing splits like ball trajectory, and the possible introduction of leaning.

[TinMan]

+ ogg support

[KiLo]

If the server has a fatal error, try to load a map rather than leave the server down.

Tie global login accounts to forum accounts.

Could you add me to the two above.

NOTE: I noticed a couple of things that we already have that are on the list.
          1. Places to enter IP and password in the join game menu. - Zorch's menus have this.
          2. Flashing flags on the hud. - again, Zorch has created this already.

EDIT: Jits I know you have to hate me for just telling you something here and there.

[Nitroboy]

After looking over a couple of things I decided I would vote for more high res textures, Vwep, Leaning, and increasing paintball visibility.

[kNoC]

+More high-res textures
+Tie Global Login To Forum Accounts (I Think It'll Be Alot Easier In The Long run)
+Just Throw Zorch's Entire Menu in there

-If the server has a fatal error, try to load a map rather than leave the server down.

If its fatal, it'll probably end, thus no server is up in the first place, we need a feature that enables it to re-host and retry like most excrement does when you lose a connection, just keeps on searching for it, we need to use that but reverse, keep on hosting it.

[Zorchenhimer]

Also, what programming language is Digital Paint written in?

C

[Zorchenhimer]

There is a motion blur option. But you can't set that in the menus. You have to type "gl_motionblur 1" in the console. And keep in mind that this will slow down all of your reactions.

[ViciouZ]

So that's whats happening on the screenshots page.

[Termin8oR]

My Vote: Faster in-game map downloading, remove funnames altogether, newer player models(male/female/cyborg), newer gun models, show topspeed on the scoreboard, mvp on scoreboard, in game communication for match servers(your team only).

[P!nk]

Whip up an improved audio vote for meh.

[Shadow]

1. Faster Downloads
2. Menu Variable Thing
3. The ability to use err is dynamic right ? Varaibles like
a = b
b = c
echo $$$a
c

4. to communicate with http/mysql through menus
5. Aliases with parameters

alias "test %1 %2" or alias test  "say Hello %1 %2"

test Dude sup  -> say Hello Dudel sup?

a.e.

alias test2 "set $%1$ %2"

test2 a agsd -> set a agsd

its not a good example but its very usefull to have sth like that like functions


6. embedded quotes


7.
Increase scriptbuffer Please ....
I think 1 or 2 Mb would be enough woudl be very nice
cause everytime i start pb my configs get deleted cause of Cbuf_addtext Buffer Overun or sth like this but only when config is bigger then 8kb

[Eiii]

There already are variables.

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]set mood "sad"
]mood
"mood" is "sad"
]echo "I'm" $mood
I'm sad
You can pretend to pass parameters to functions by using the variables.

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]alias setVar "set $var $val"
]alias bindMe "set var hi ; set val mom ; setVar"
]bindMe
]hi
"hi" is "mom"
]alias bindMe2 "set var lol ; set val cakes ; setVar"
]bindMe2
]lol
"lol" is "cakes"
I don't know why the hell you'd want to communicate with mySQL in this game, and what would the embedded quotes accomplish, exactly?

[Cobo]

And what would the embedded quotes accomplish, exactly?

If I understand correctly, embedded commands:

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bind a "bind b "echo hello"; bind c "echo goodbye""
I know you can do that with aliases but I guess that is faster to do.

[jitspoe]

Some things you can't do with aliases.  Menu commands, for example:

command "set name $tempname"

This doesn't work if you have a space in the name, ie "my name".  It comes out as:
set name my name

Then your name ends up being "my".  Actually, I think it just throws an error out to the console.  Either way, it doesn't work.  There needs to be a way to use embedded quotes, something like:

command "set name \"tempname\""
command "set name ""tempname"""
command "set name %22tempname%22"

Haven't decided which method I should use yet.

[y00tz]

I took the time to re-tally the votes from your last update through this post with the exception of Shadow's last 3 since they seemed repitive, redundant and or just confusing (No offense honest mate, just couldn't grasp it)

27: faster in-game downloading - jitspoe, Smokey, Tinman, Gremlin, P!nk, eiii, atte, b00nlander, SkateR, Playah, ViciouZ, nightryder, oli887, toM|vendettA, Gold_Leader, l1g, Clipz, Sharp, Waggot, Zorchenhimer, basilo, Sandwraith, kNoC, y00tz, Nitroboy, Termin8or, Shadow
14: More high-res textures - Gremlin, bitmate, b00nlander, SkateR, oli887, Gold_Leader, l1g, TinMan, MosheD, Spook, Sandwraith, spacepirate, Nitroboy, kNoC
12: Vwep (see what weapons people are carrying) - bitmate, KnacK, XtremeBain, SmackWaters, SkateR, ViciouZ, toM|vendettA, Gold_Leader, Waggot, basilo, eiii, Nitroboy
9: Increase paintball visibility - S8NSSON, PiCaSSo, oli887, Dirty_Taco, nightryder, Playah, Spook, Gold_Leader, Nitroboy
7: Leaning - magalhaes, atte, bitmate, ViciouZ, Sandwraith, kNoC, Nitroboy
7: Better bot AI - P!nk, jitspoe, ViciouZ, QueeNiE, linux, Topher, dlorimer
7: New gun models (such as the Angel) - Gremlin, iEATnoobs, l1g, Clipz, Sandwraith, Nitroboy, Termin8or
5: Female player model - T3RR0R15T, SmackWaters, Spook, magalhaes, Termin8or
4: In-game voice communication (VoIP) - SkateR, Clipz, ch40s, Termin8or
4: Variables in menu widgets (for map preview screenshots) - Zorchenhimer, l1g, {appy Hamper, Shadow
3: Tie global login accounts to forum accounts - y00tz, KiLo, kNoC
2: If the server has a fatal error, try to load a map rather than leave the server down. - jitspoe, KiLo
2: Display topspeed on the scoreboard. - lekky, Termin8or
1: OGG Support - TinMan
1: Add Zorchenheimer's Menu Pack - kNoC
1: MVP on Scoreboard - Termin8or

Hope it helped some

Cheers,
y00tz

[Shadow]

There already are variables.

Code:

]set mood "sad"
]mood
"mood" is "sad"
]echo "I'm" $mood
I'm sad


You can pretend to pass parameters to functions by using the variables.
Code:

]alias setVar "set $var $val"
]alias bindMe "set var hi ; set val mom ; setVar"
]bindMe
]hi
"hi" is "mom"
]alias bindMe2 "set var lol ; set val cakes ; setVar"
]bindMe2
]lol
"lol" is "cakes"


I don't know why the hell you'd want to communicate with mySQL in this game, and what would the embedded quotes accomplish, exactly?

.... i know there are variables ... but u dont understand me i dont wanna use 1layer cvars ... what i mean is

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variable a is b
variable b is c

$a = b ... right ?
then i want the ability
$$$a = $b = c  understand ?
its like the other way round like

set $a c ... this does
$a = b
so: set b c.
but u cant get the "c" ... using "a" as var...

and whats not able too is :

a = h
b = m
hm = c

echo $a$$b$
hm

echo $$$$a$$b$
$$hm

instead of c
all the cvars just work in one layer


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]alias setVar "set $var $val"
]alias bindMe "set var hi ; set val mom ; setVar"
]bindMe
]hi
"hi" is "mom"
]alias bindMe2 "set var lol ; set val cakes ; setVar"
]bindMe2
]lol
"lol" is "cakes"


...

thats completely senseless ... and isnt a real param ...

alias bindMe2 "set var %1%;  set val %2% ; setVar"
that would be  an parameter
if u could use it like this ...

bindMe2 lol cake
lol
lol is cake


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why i want to com. with mysql is for a menu for clans
so f.e. the admin can write the pass for the server. in the menu of pb which is stored in the mysqldb ...
then in another mysqldb there is the memberlist ...
amd the serverip
the members can press join in the menu and
autojoin the server with the specified pw in the mysqldb
...
this is just an example ...

i know more about scripting and menus in pb as u think i do ...

Then your name ends up being "my".  Actually, I think it just throws an error out to the console.  Either way, it doesn't work.  There needs to be a way to use embedded quotes, something like:

whats about

the normal quotes are " the embbed are '
set name '$tempname$'

and at the moment it just says

flags can only be user or server ...

pb thinks the name after my is the flag

and what cobo said would be usefull too

err and jit would it be possible to increase buffersize pls ?