Digital Paint Discussion Board
Fairness Enforcement => Issues for Committee Review => Topic started by: Haze on November 15, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
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im allowed to start a new topic right? it wont get me banned? anyways part 1 got locked by a administrator and i feel it wasnt productive enough so i've decided to make a new topic. i made a valid point in part 1 saying that tom|vendetta successfully brought in a good percentage of playeds into the dp community by posting this game on some website. and thats when all these euros came and started playing, example all the czechoslovakians none of them started playing until tom vendetta spread the word. so im asking, who knows how he did it? which website did he use? what websites can we use? i want the committee to go fetch some intercourseking people and get them to play this shhitty intercourseking game. see ya hhomos
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I think I agree with Haze's underlying point, and we do need to bring more people in (duh).
Theres a lot of talk about getting banned people unbanned, but itd be far better to bring in new players who arent hacking wankers that 'only used once'. Advertising it obviously one way of doing it, but its not up to the committee as that isnt there job, instead its up to the entire community. Maybe people should advertise it on websites they or their friends may have, spread the news by word of mouth? Audition for the x factor, do a bad enough performance to get aired and wear a shirt that says dplogin.com whilst doing it..? Start a money pot where we all pitch in for an advert :)..
Either way, the game is really intercoursing good lol. Best free game with the majority of people being really cool guys , group effort time *does a dance*.
Good day chaps.
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...with the majority of people being really cool guys , group effort time *does a dance*.
Of course the people who are playing atm think that, but one reason we can't keep new players around because we have ***holes who turn them down from clans, kick them from pubs, and talk trash to them.
I agree for the most part, but I do think people need to change their attitudes towards new players. Unlike other games, we dont have a crap load of experienced players around, so the few that are here have a great impact.
Theres a lot of talk about getting banned people unbanned, but itd be far better to bring in new players who arent hacking wankers that 'only used once'.
Also, I don't agree with this. Your clan leader was just unbanned and the owner of the vent you use is currently banned lol... If you look at the expired banned list, you'll see how many players were given a second chance and are now active players. (Your buddy Morbid who has been banned for several reasons is a great example, and so am I)
Advertising: Almost everyone who plays this game plays multiple games, so go make a post on their forums in the off-topic section or something. (League of Legends, Tf2, Quake Live, Cs:s, Club Penguin)
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i'm appreciating this post.
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seriously,
I don´t even see the point of discussing about whether there should be done something, there should be a place where we can collect those ideas, and it´s really hard for me to get trough all this spam, don´t you have any hobbys? Do u have nothing left to do, or are you forced to fight each other instead of really talking to each other and really DISKUSSING! I mean where is the whole result of this 15 answers? Half of it is spam or insults and i´m not talking about this thread only. And it should be possible for everyone to tell his opinion without being offended. It´s really stupid if you want to hear the others ideas, that between it there is nothing more than nothing.
i don´t know, but i think that i´m not the only one to think this way or a similar one. I really have to stop now or this post will be posted in 2012.
[i´m referring in the hole post to part 1, part 2 is better though.
And don´t complain about my english >:( ]
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And don´t complain about my english >:( ]
i have to, because that was just terrible.. you might aswell just admit your ph3n1x's 6th multi account, or maybe its Gohan!!
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Rockyar.I know you're talking about haze's post but just in case you're also talking about mine, I didn't insult anyone. I just posted what was wrong with the community(including me) so that we can fix it.
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thank u for the perfect example.
That´s exactly what i´m complaining about.
EDIT: I´m complaining about the general situation, not about several people.
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Of course the people who are playing atm think that, but one reason we can't keep new players around because we have ***holes who turn them down from clans, kick them from pubs, and talk trash to them.
I agree for the most part, but I do think people need to change their attitudes towards new players. Unlike other games, we dont have a crap load of experienced players around, so the few that are here have a great impact.
Also, I don't agree with this. Your clan leader was just unbanned and the owner of the vent you use is currently banned lol... If you look at the expired banned list, you'll see how many players were given a second chance and are now active players. (Your buddy Morbid who has been banned for several reasons is a great example, and so am I)
Advertising: Almost everyone who plays this game plays multiple games, so go make a post on their forums in the off-topic section or something. (League of Legends, Tf2, Quake Live, Cs:s, Club Penguin)
Hm I wanted to sum up my suggestion/opinion in a nutshell, but what I meant to say is that more attention needs to be payed on getting new members over bringing back old ones, although perhaps those that have been banned for a long time should maybe be put under reconsideration to be brought back, but thats a touchy topic :p
+1 for the forum idea.
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i dont think anyone cares unrated, just get on your pub in dp2 and talk with me and shao thanks.
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Advertising: Almost everyone who plays this game plays multiple games, so go make a post on their forums in the off-topic section or something. (League of Legends, Tf2, Quake Live, Cs:s, Club Penguin)
I'd rather die in a intercourse pit with used needles lying around than play club penguin to spread the word.
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I'd rather die in a intercourse pit with used needles lying around than play club penguin to spread the word.
thats pretty dumb lol.i dont know when you'd ever be faced with that choice
it would also be cool if any Americans wanted to start doing 2v2/1v1 tournaments like shockwave used to throw together on the weekends and during the summer :D It used to only take us like 30 minutes to set up
the warsow community is even closer to dying than we are :D they recently started doing a team duel league that took place every Saturday night. It boosted the activity a little.
We don't have enough clans to do that kinda thing yet, but we can start off with like an on going 2v2/3v3 bracket (teams based on skill level) that would take place once or twice a week.
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thats pretty dumb lol.i dont know when you'd ever be faced with that choice
You never know...
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it would also be cool if any Americans wanted to start doing 2v2/1v1 tournaments like shockwave used to throw together on the weekends and during the summer :D It used to only take us like 30 minutes to set up
I want to set up my website for this in the near future. If anyone knows of some good html game brackets, ladders or things like that let me know.
More related to the topic: Start using Reddit to spread the DP word.
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http://www.warsownews.inx-gaming.co.uk/data/tools/putty-bracket-system-0.9.5.zip
http://www.warsownews.inx-gaming.co.uk/data/tools/phpTourney-0.8.8.zip
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#1 The last thread got locked because it wasn't going anywhere. Sort of like this one.
#2 The committee's job isn't advertising.
#3 Instead of making multiple threads of what other people are doing why don't you get off the DP forums and do something productive for this community?
The only thing wrong with this game is the players. Since becoming active in these forums years ago I have seen it all. The one thing that really sticks out is how quick people like to blame others or simply not be proactive when dealing with a given situation. People cheated. As a result they were banned. In most cases they were given a warning or knew their actions were suspect. Get over it. Play the game. If you think it needs more players HELP the person who has given you a free game by doing what you can to help. If you're not willing to help yourselves why should anyone else make the effort?
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Thanks blaa, I will check that out.
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#4 instead of having good commitee members we have guys like fl1p who think hes always right and never says anything clever
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#5 We have trolls like Rocky who can never add anything to a discussion.
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#6 we have biased fugboys like fl1p in the committee who only really care about anything if it involves CC
if only committee members were voted in by the community
idk why your answer to everything is to lock the thread when you know someone is just gonna make a new one.
Forums are for discussions, so let us say what we have to say
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#6 we have biased fugboys like fl1p in the committee who only really care about anything if it involves CC
if only committee members were voted in by the community
idk why your answer to everything is to lock the thread when you know someone is just gonna make a new one.
Forums are for discussions, so let us say what we have to say
Please get your facts straight. I'm am biased against people who break the rules. You got me. They are voted in by the community. Sorry if the committee tries to keep the hackers out of the committee. I do not lock every thread. Please show me which threads I have locked to keep a ACTUAL discussion from happening. If you abide by the rules you may say what you will.
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I don't know what you consider an "ACTUAL discussion", but usually a discussion is when you like uh.... discuss.
There's a reason why every time you guys lock a thread, someone makes another thread so that they can reply. When people are done saying what they want to say, they will stop replying...
Sorry if we don't post things that are useful according to your standards. This is a forum for a video game, not school. Not everyone wants to be completely serious. I guess I might start to think the same way you do if I'm still playing video games when I'm 40.
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So, you're saying that you will quit as soon as you mature up? darn, will never get rid of you :(
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No. I don't see that anywhere in my post lol
I meant if i don't get shot or go to jail by the time I'm 40 , then I'll being posting some pretty good stuff . I only gotta last 25 more years :D
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if i don't get shot or go to jail by the time I'm 40
teehee.
Some of the threads that get locked shouldnt have been locked, but that also works the other way round..although in free speech forums, locking is basically censorship (in some cases)
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Talking about this game on other forums is a good idea.
Instead of talking about it and suggesting ill do it..
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I don't know what you consider an "ACTUAL discussion", but usually a discussion is when you like uh.... discuss.
There's a reason why every time you guys lock a thread, someone makes another thread so that they can reply. When people are done saying what they want to say, they will stop replying...
Sorry if we don't post things that are useful according to your standards. This is a forum for a video game, not school. Not everyone wants to be completely serious. I guess I might start to think the same way you do if I'm still playing video games when I'm 40.
This is exactly what I am talking about. This thread is about the committee doing something to help this game.
#1 The committee was not established to do this. This makes the thread pointless correct?
#2 Why are you continuously bringing my behavior as a forum mod into this?
#3 Please show me where I LOCKED a thread just for the sake of ending a legitimate, on topic discussion. Please go ahead.
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I guess I might start to think the same way you do if I'm still playing video games when I'm 40.
This is awesome. First time I heard this one. You see, my generation brought video game consoles into the mainstream. It has always been a passion. As I get older I play the games a little less often, which is what eventually happens to a busy person. Another note, is I have four kids. I have a reason for being home bored sometimes. I bust my butt at a job, running kids around to classes all week, my wife an I both have descent paying jobs but still keep going to school to better ourselves. When I have down time I play games. Get over it. over half of the video game industry is fueled by men over the age of 27. You're a teenager? Shouldn't you be out doing stuff? Being social? Learning how to ride a bike? Meeting girls? Learning how to get a job? Figuring out which end is sharp on a razor? Doing something productive? Asking yourself questions about life? Figuring out if wearing those tight hip hugger jeans really will impress that girl you have a crush on. Keeping your Justin Bieber hair neatly trimmed. Anything? What's your excuse?
Awe look. Another discussion derailed.
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1. I know how to ride a bike, I'm black so I can't have that luscious Bieber hair, and I have a girlfriend.
2.most of the people that play this game are around my age. and I have plenty of time to do everything you just listed(although I didn't read most of it)
If you wanted to have a conversation about me not having a life, private message me, but the comment about your age wasn't meant as an insult. I'm saying that most of us a teens and you're a lot older than us, which is why you are a more mature/serious person. We want to have fun, and the players think of committee members as leaders, so of course you all are blamed when we aren't having fun. Who cares if jitspoe only meant for the committee to help with rule violations...does that mean you can't help the game too?
If the community actually does vote for the committee members like you said, then almost all of the match scene must have missed the last election. Most of us would have voted for people who are active players and would try to help the game.
Awe look. Another discussion derailed.
Thanks to you. I've only criticized the committee and posted suggestions. You've pretty much just told us to shut up because we're not going to get anywhere...
BTW: This isn't only me talking, I try to talk to the people who Flamer's vent (3/5 active american clans) before I post.
i don't think a lot of that made sense im a little "loopy" and a little african and i had to right-click just about everything so that it could be auto-fixed.
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BTW: This isn't only me talking, I try to talk to the people who Flamer's vent (3/5 active american clans) before I post.
Q: What are the 5 active american clans?
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CC, uRa, b , CRo, iD ohsheeet i got all 5 thx.
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Thanks to you. I've only criticized the committee and posted suggestions. You've pretty much just told us to shut up because we're not going to get anywhere...
We're back at the very same discussion we had in the other thread...
I have no problems with people criticizing the committee (I actually appreciate it, as also I think some stuff could be improved), but criticizing doesn't help if you're not aware of what the committee does, and is supposed to do.
Also, I fear Fl1p is right once again. Raging over the committee, even if meant constructive, is not going to bring you anywhere. Webhead opened a thread to ask the community for feedback a while ago and posted some stuff he'd like to change, but he got ruled out by Jitspoe himself. As the committee only has an advising role for Jitspoe, and he is fine with the way things go, there is no need to change anything (seen from his point of view).
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If the community actually does vote for the committee members like you said, then almost all of the match scene must have missed the last election. Most of us would have voted for people who are active players and would try to help the game.
myles: your quote is valid.
Fl1p: it would of been better if you said nothing at all, seriously.
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As the committee only has an advising role for Jitspoe, and he is fine with the way things go, there is no need to change anything (seen from his point of view).
pvtjimmy: im sorry but you're wrong. there needs to be a change because the way things are going there wont be a dp2. the committee is useless at the moment. maybe you guys should get together and better the game before its no longer fun. actually im wrong, the game is no longer fun. the question is how much worse can it get...
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honestly this game was fun 6 to 8 years ago. and been getting worse and worse very slowly since then. hilarious.
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i agree with myles about getting active players from the communittee to help out cuz inactive people like me wont. theres a reason why were inactive and its cuz its not fun anymore for us to play this game, we dont care about it as much anymore we have other better stuff to do. an active player would want to enhance their game play and would be more motivated to help out than someone like me and fl1p. And the communittee needs to know what rules the committee aren't allowed to break, or how to get rid of a committee member that's a pest. this will keep the committee in line because theyre nobody special anyway, they dont help the communittee grow infact the communitee is decreasing.
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fl1p: post a pic of you and your wife
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It's not so much the game itself it's the players we are missing here... The game isnt going to change much and i like it the way it is, I think if we had about 10 more active matching players there wouldn't be complaining... I think you have nearly as much power as they do about helping the game maybe give out donations or contact friends,websites do something other then telling them to do something..
Also I dont think you can say the entire "Committee" because i know that superman has been doing the most to get this game back on it's feet, and i dont think your seeing that the matching scene is growing slowly for americans anyway but like i said the committe shouldn't be the ones to blame for the game not being "fun"
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pvtjimmy: im sorry but you're wrong. there needs to be a change because the way things are going there wont be a dp2. the committee is useless at the moment.
There is a reason I wrote "seen from Jitspoe's point of view" ;)
Could you let me know what you think the committee should do to help, please. Although I don't think it is something for the committee to do (as it's obviously not the reason it was created), I think a few individuals are actually willing to help (including me). Also, some non-committee players might want to add their part so we can get things rolling.
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Paint.clown: you obviously failed at reading. i said people like me and fl1p, who aren't that active, don't care about this game anymore (as much) and dont feel the need to "enhance" the game for ourselves because its not worth our time. thats why i say get a active player to help out because they will work their ass off most likely because they will like the game enhance and also they will appreciate the recognition.
Pvtjimmy: get an active player to do the dirty work lol. you failed at reading too?
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have a nice day.
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Let's just change the name of the committee to Jitspoes ban team. Then maybe people like haze can realize what its purpose is.
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typo, i guess im unable to delete qutoes? failll superman delete the 43rd reply which is this one please thanks
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Superman is only a Committee Member, not a Moderator :(
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http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=23931.0
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I can not reiterate this enough guys. STOP DEMANDING OTHER PEOPLE TO SACRIFICE THEIR FREE TIME FOR YOU. Promotion is a great idea to bring in new players, stop asking other people to do it for you. It is fine to ask them about some ideas or places to promote but don't ask them to do it for you.
dp has been on the top page of digg.com several times, each with a large burst in new players. You could try getting a few people to 'digg' a topic on it.
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i got 60 subs on youtube, i will be promoting a DP vid on there. i've already got 3 of my friend to play. brownie points!
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i got 60 subs on youtube, i will be promoting a DP vid on there. i've already got 3 of my friend to play. brownie points!
Sorry. Myers, Idias, and Juiicy don't count.
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Sorry. Myers, Idias, and Juiicy don't count.
LOLZ COOL STORY BRO!
Either you're trying to be funny (which didn't work) - or you struggled to understand his very simply put sentence.
Yeah, it's the COMPETITIVE community that make new players quit, sure. Not the ignorant forumers who always put down individuals who try to help the game, regardless of how useful or not what they're doing is, when they do jack shet.
Couldn't of just not posted? Or said: Good job on putting effort towards this game!
Nope, had to be ignorant. Couldn't resist? Even as a moderator? Can't put your personal issues with players away? You went offtopic, thanks for showing us what types of posts are deemed "okay" now!
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LOLZ COOL STORY BRO!
Either you're trying to be funny (which didn't work) - or you struggled to understand his very simply put sentence.
Yeah, it's the COMPETITIVE community that make new players quit, sure. Not the ignorant forumers who always put down individuals who try to help the game, regardless of how useful or not what they're doing is, when they do jack shet.
Couldn't of just not posted? Or said: Good job on putting effort towards this game!
Nope, had to be ignorant. Couldn't resist? Even as a moderator? Can't put your personal issues with players away? You went offtopic, thanks for showing us what types of posts are deemed "okay" now!
what effort is chemical putting in? Last time I checked he started a tutorial series. He quit on that one after he created some videos how to use google. The bloke is retarded. I think your whole group should be terminated from this game.
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what effort is chemical putting in? Last time I checked he started a tutorial series. He quit on that one after he created some videos how to use google. The bloke is retarded. I think your whole group should be terminated from this game.
After starting the tutorial series, he was banned from the forums, so I guess he didn't feel as though the community wanted them, lol.
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wasn't the tutorial series started to show his goodwill about the game to get unbanned?
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wasn't the tutorial series started to show his goodwill about the game to get unbanned?
He knew it wouldn't get him unbanned directly, but think of it as whatever you want to. I view it as an attempt to show remorse for his actions.
Why do people keep saying, "to get unbanned", anyways. The ban times were never set in stone, there is not trying to get unbanned going on. It's trying to get them reviewed, now that Jitspoe has the entire story, he is planning on putting the justified ban times. Originally, it seemed like there was a lot of distribution going on, so he gave everyone the distribution ban until he could get the time to figure it all out. Now, he knows the story, so people are just waiting for the time.
and Blaa: He was forum banned - so had no way of posting his updates etc.. Now he's not banned anymore, and is going to restart. Whether you like a person or not, you should still support when they do something constructive... especially in a game as small as this. Say stuff about those who haven't done jack shet in a while, like myself and most others in this community.
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yes, i'll be starting where i left off when i get back from holidays. so a week or two.
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yes, i'll be starting where i left off when i get back from holidays. so a week or two.
See, I do not meddling believe you. You started something, you got banned while doing something. All you buddies managed to evade the forum bans, but you little princess couldn't do it. You even stopped on the whole project. Nobody banned you from IRC, nobody banned you from youtube. You could have continued with your 'howtousegoogle' tutorials.
You didn't.
I am not sure about the whole group. But I think a lot of them should be banned forever & ever. Those who quit with those 'funny' "goodbye dp" threads especially. And reaver, for being a lier. Besides all that, like jitspoe said, not one of them came directly to jitspoe, to show the cheat. Not one. Yet, they trashed this games owner, this games cheat detection, this games community.
And now, these newbies want to get back in? Their punishment was unheard of? They feel that the game sucks only for a limited time?
Like jits explained. Banning somebody isnt a 5minute job. It takes time. So why waste hours on reviewing their bans? it's meddling beyond me. And these hackers act as if it was their god given right.
I've played honestly for over 6 years. I've never been even curious how wallhack looks like.
And then I see these guys, who claim to be martyrs of some sort, in IRC talking how they have hacked in css and other games. They are a waste.
DON'T UNBAN ANY OF THEM
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blaa you're a tool and bad for the game you should quit.
as for what you said about me. im not lying but even if i was since when do people get banned for lying? you seem extremely bias'd which means your opinion is worth about jack excrement
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Reply to Blaa: (I don't want to quote the whole thing)
1- He couldn't post on forums/get good feedback - got forum banned, so he left the community for a little. Nobody is going to stay around trying to help, if they feel their help is unwanted. He wanted to help the game, not marry it. It was him showing remorse, unlike the rest of us.
2- I'm the only one who really mocked DP in the goodbye threads, then people followed me by making their "fake" ban threads. So if the "banned forever & ever for those funny goodbye dp threads" applies, it should only apply to me. So stop flaming the entire group, over that. Well, and Reaver who still hasn't given in his cheats and claims he hasn't used them....
3- These "newbies" have served 160+ days, and want their ban time reviewed, like they were told it would have been originally. As I stated in another thread, we were all given distribution bans as it appeared there was a lot of distribution going on - so Jitspoe did that to simplify any possible mistakes, until he could get to the bottom of it. Now he has, so we want it to be reviewed. People may still get 256+ days etc.. - or keep their 1024 - it's not saying we're all getting unbanned. I didn't see you flipping out when certain distributors in this community only had to serve maybe 200 days out of their 1024, etc.. The threads pushed it over the top more than known distributors? and players who have cheated 4+ times? Alright.
4- Banning and unbanning are two separate things. Banning involves going through logs etc... unbanning is much quicker, as far as I know.
5- I don't know what you're talking about, with the "talking about how they have hacked in css and other games" - cause nobody that I was playing with did. Although, I only started playing with them again when my first semester finished, so a few weeks ago. Cheating on steam is silly.
6- Yes, we did go to Jitspoe to show the cheat. I gave in all the information the same day I got banned. I'm pretty sure Chalk and Idias did the same. We weren't trying to hide anything. Reaver is probably one of the one ones who hasn't given anything in, yet.
But regardless, I'm completely cool with being kept banned. Don't want to start a rage-war from the community, since mocking the game on forums, like they all do on IRC (Everything said in those ban threads, have been said on this forum beforehand anyways) etc.. is far worse than cheating 4+ times, and distributing, right blaa? Didn't see you complaining when they came back to the community.... Nobody complains that those who argue how Jitspoe hacked their computer, or continually deny they cheated for like a month, before giving in info, get banned. Oh well, dp2 community <3 the most inconsistent community.
PS: Riddick, it's spelt lying ffs
PPS: Not everyone made multi forum accounts, it was all chalk's friends, cause he's black. shet.
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blaa, most new people don't know about IRC yet and come to the forums for answers. that's the whole reasoning behind the How-To series, To get them on mIRC, ventrilo, TS3, and whatnot. Just because i did something wrong doesn't mean i can't help, no matter how bad or good the help is I don't see you going out of your way to help the community.
So for you to come on here and completly trash it, makes me realize why nobody helps. I don't expect everyone to love what I'm doing, but at least I'm trying to do something. No wonder people don't do anything... all the forumers put everything down, I mean, you guys even put down Jitspoe's hard work when your'e not doing anything. Then, complain that we did when we got banned? Everyone rages about DP when they get banned! What's the difference! You've said the same stuff we did.
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you seem extremely bias'd which means your opinion is worth about jack excrement
Why doesn't his opinion count if he were biased? It's his opinion, his thoughts on something. Just because you don't agree on his opinion doesn't make it worthless. Just saying.
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Why doesn't his opinion count if he were biased? It's his opinion, his thoughts on something. Just because you don't agree on his opinion doesn't make it worthless. Just saying.
True, and Reaver - our opinions, for the most part, are just as biased. Since we're the ones trying to get the bans reviewed. He's just on the complete other side. And within the community, it comes down to personal issues with people, as oppose to what they've done.
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Glad that you realize that.
My response to myers:
1- Totally ridiculous. He got his 1024 day ban already. Started on the 'howtousegooglevideos', then got forum banned. And then he felt that he wasn't wanted? Makes his whole youtube attempt smell rotten, if you ask me.
2- Probably, not going to argue here. But there is a one common thing for all of you. You got fed up with the game. And decided to hack. As far as I know most of you are adults, or around 18, with some exceptions maybe. This brings me to a thought that hey, these guys might have a brain already. Which makes me ask: " Hey, will they do the same next time they get sick of this game?". Can you answer that, Myers? For all of your group?
3- Everytime someone hacks in dp I drop a tear. I have always been against hacking and always will be. Your case makes me interested enough to post, because it is so retarded. You are all hypocrits, you are all dead to me.
4- Not interested. You think going through all this excrement you have created in forums doesn't take time? And besides, normal players like doesn't give a phenix about your ban. Why should us suffer (from the lack of jitspoes developing time)?
5- Riddick and chemical were talking about it. The conclusion we got to is that all hacks make you play worse and they should all be legal (well, since they are useless).
6- LMAO. Biggest laugh yet. "Yes, we did go to Jitspoe to show the cheat." LMAO. Let me try to explain again. I read my earlier post again, and it could have been confusing for you. What I meant: You hacked, you DID NOT introduce the cheat to jitspoe, you CREATED a thread saying that cheat detection sucks, and then you presumably contacted jitspoe. Doesn't look like a normal chain of thought for me when stumbling upon a cheat.
I love you too Riddick.
My response to chemical: Bro. I love when people do something for the community. I really don't think ANYBODY will EVER be thankful to you for making 5 videos on how to use google and install a program.
I don't have personal issues with any of you people... I pretty much got a long very friendly with myers... Wouldn't you say? I had my ups and downs with reaver, so we weren't the best friends. I liked idias. I probably had never spoken with chemical before, so why would I give a intercourse?
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doesnt matter. spewing out crap like you should stay banned forever because in your personal opinion im lying is a joke. and even if i am lying in your opinion since when is that a bannable offense? making up rules for me now too?
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6- Yes, we did go to Jitspoe to show the cheat. I gave in all the information the same day I got banned. I'm pretty sure Chalk and Idias did the same. We weren't trying to hide anything. Reaver is probably one of the one ones who hasn't given anything in, yet.
I don't see how those of you that were banned can pretend like you did "the right thing". You didn't "turn yourselves in", you went and stirred up a big crapfest up on the forums. "Hey, look at us! We cheated! Jitspoe's cheat detection sucks! Let's all go play some other game!" Of the 10-20 people that were using that cheat not a single one of them came forward to me directly and provided the cheat and info about how it was distributed (until they were forced to later if they wanted a chance to be unbanned, even then, some of them still haven't contacted me).
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doesnt matter. spewing out crap like you should stay banned forever because in your personal opinion im lying is a joke. and even if i am lying in your opinion since when is that a bannable offense? making up rules for me now too?
Note before reading: when I'm speaking of "you", I mean the entire group, not the individuals.
As far as I understand Blaa's post correctly, he's not making up any rules for anyone. He's just pointing out his opinion on this entire matter, questioning your behavior around the time of your alleged hacking. If you would read his posts more precisely, you would notice he's bringing up sufficient arguments to support his opinion (whether you agree with them or not is not my business). With all these arguments, I do understand him when he questions the idea of unbanning you, as your past behavior could make one question whether you are indeed the addition for this game some of you claim to be.
As for the lying part, I think it's pretty simple. Nobody of us have seen what you wrote to Jitspoe (not even committee). Therefore it's word again word for everyone who's not directly involved. As Jitspoe is clearly saying none of you followed the correct ways (f.e. Foxhound's quote above my post), it makes it very hard to believe that you're speaking the truth. Sorry to say, but I think Jitspoe is being considered a little more credential when it comes down to matters like this.
No matter whether you did indeed hack or lie about anything, I've heard several people saying you spammed links to hacks in at least one Irc channel. Lying might not be bannable, but distributing is.
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Glad that you realize that.
My response to myers:
1- Totally ridiculous. He got his 1024 day ban already. Started on the 'howtousegooglevideos', then got forum banned. And then he felt that he wasn't wanted? Makes his whole youtube attempt smell rotten, if you ask me.
2- Probably, not going to argue here. But there is a one common thing for all of you. You got fed up with the game. And decided to hack. As far as I know most of you are adults, or around 18, with some exceptions maybe. This brings me to a thought that hey, these guys might have a brain already. Which makes me ask: " Hey, will they do the same next time they get sick of this game?". Can you answer that, Myers? For all of your group?
3- Everytime someone hacks in dp I drop a tear. I have always been against hacking and always will be. Your case makes me interested enough to post, because it is so retarded. You are all hypocrits, you are all dead to me.
4- Not interested. You think going through all this excrement you have created in forums doesn't take time? And besides, normal players like doesn't give a phenix about your ban. Why should us suffer (from the lack of jitspoes developing time)?
5- Riddick and chemical were talking about it. The conclusion we got to is that all hacks make you play worse and they should all be legal (well, since they are useless).
6- LMAO. Biggest laugh yet. "Yes, we did go to Jitspoe to show the cheat." LMAO. Let me try to explain again. I read my earlier post again, and it could have been confusing for you. What I meant: You hacked, you DID NOT introduce the cheat to jitspoe, you CREATED a thread saying that cheat detection sucks, and then you presumably contacted jitspoe. Doesn't look like a normal chain of thought for me when stumbling upon a cheat.
I love you too Riddick.
My response to chemical: Bro. I love when people do something for the community. I really don't think ANYBODY will EVER be thankful to you for making 5 videos on how to use google and install a program.
I don't have personal issues with any of you people... I pretty much got a long very friendly with myers... Wouldn't you say? I had my ups and downs with reaver, so we weren't the best friends. I liked idias. I probably had never spoken with chemical before, so why would I give a intercourse?
1- You'd be surprised what stuff players have problems with. You see the questions asked in #paintball - to us they seem retardedly simple, to them it's useful. That being said, it may not be the most useful thing ever, but it's still better than nothing. I'm not suggesting this should have any affect in his ban review - but players should ignore his ban and support when he tries to help the community.
2- We skipped the: "YOU HACKED MY COMPUTER! I DIDNT CHEAT" stage (besides Reaver) - and went to the "This game blows! 'x' game is soo much better!" -- It happens in EVERY ban... we just skipped some steps, and mocked a little more. That warrants a 64day ban to be 1024? Okay. Also, specific to Reaver -- Everyone read Foxhound's ban thread, he made a bigger deal than Reaver, so why does Reaver get a really high ban, yet Foxhound had a normal one? hmmm... consistency please.
Also - No I cannot answer that for the entire group, or even myself. But is that a reason to not let players back? I can say "We'll never cheat again!" but it's solely speculation, or assumption. I don't plan on it, can't speak for anyone else - they'll say they don't plan on it, but eh, so did Homingbullet every time. But why did players such as Homingbullet get 4-5 chances? Yet, you're against our group getting their 1st, or 2nd chances? hmmm... consistency please.
3- Fair enough. Kinda ironic Sata and I can't remember who else, got banned while being in [q] - hey look Sata is still in. Must hate those hackers. hmmm... consistency please.
4- I told Jitspoe not to worry about unbanning people until he has the time, and to put developing the game first. He has his priority list, and will get to it in time. So this reviewing doesn't affect his time working on DP.
5- Riddick and Chemical are idiots. nuff sed. But don't generalize an entire group for two people.
6- We cheated, reported ourselves (in a mocking way) - then after getting banned turned it in. It would've been a better idea to send it just to Jitspoe, sure, but regardless he got the cheats and explanations the same day we reported ourselves. It was just done in a.. stupid way. Guess that warrants an extra 960 days?
Blaa, I didn't see you caring when distributors in this community got unbanned... guess they're cool? Also, my question back: Given the normal ban times, was what we did deserving of 960 more days than normal? (We've served 160+ so far) -- or do you feel more that you'd just rather Jitspoe not have to waste time? (Even though he set it up like this so he wouldn't waste time later if he made a mistake).
Foxhound: We turned in the cheats and info after actually getting banned. I suppose he meant something like we didn't turn ourselves in when we found the undetectable cheat, which we did know was undetectable as Cyntex was using it since June.
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I was told by GWB to try to get some info about Jitspoe's cheat detection system, basically whether or not it would scan files in a folder or if it was rendering in game, we successfully found that it was rendering. So i came up with a lie that it was in my css folder and his detection system must have scanned my computer and that it was illegal etc. All a hoax.
I basically badgered him for no reason. you are right.
The main difference between me and Riddick is, I will admit to hacking.
And stop talking about my ban thread, you're obsessed. And you still haven't found a post of me using big law terms other than in my ban thread Mr. Knowitall
"5- Riddick and Chemical are idiots. nuff sed. But don't generalize an entire group for two people."
You know your bipolar ass doesn't think chemical is an idiot, you two will be butt loving after 3 years when you're unbanned again. Kinda like your love hate relations with shk.
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pvtjimmy as an individual in that group and if you read blaa's post correctly he doesnt say anyone except me is lying. and that he thinks i should be banned forever for lying.
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pvtjimmy as an individual in that group and if you read blaa's post correctly he doesnt say anyone except me is lying. and that he thinks i should be banned forever for lying.
Be glad Blaa doesn't have to say anything about your potential "ban for lying". Also, read the second part of my post (again) and you'll probably better understand why people would like to see you banned except for your alleged lying.
When reading the threads about your ban(s) to better understand why people accuse you of lying, I noticed this is not the first time you rage over your ban. Rage hard. In the past it's been proven that you lied to at least Jitspoe (http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=11185.msg113387#msg113387), so why should people trust you this time? I am not claiming you're lying this time (I do not have enough information to judge this), but due to the past I can imagine you have a rather dubious reputation.
Now would you stop caring about random community thoughts (sorry blaa) so much, please? If you have any stuff about your ban, don't try to win some hearts on the forum. Man the intercourse up and speak to Jitspoe in private, just as the major part of all other banned people do. You can reach him over forum PM or writing an e-mail to Jitspoe (at) yahoo (dot) com. Be a little patient though, this man has more to do than caring about banned community members.
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how am i trying to win any hearts... i was simply stating to blaa that lying isnt a bannable offense and it never will be. and it wasnt proven that i lied in the past. i had a new computer(it was actually rebuilt and that was where the misunderstanding occured) and a new internet just as i said.
also i really havent said much myself about my ban other then the ban time not having a precedent. i just respond to people like blaa's moronic posts. if you dont want responses then dont have threads or a forum. kthx
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As a member of this community I can not JOKE with people? I'm sorry if you believe as a forum mod I am not allowed to lightly JOKE with someone, especially if it isn't foul in any way. Every single one of the "group" of banned players asked for the forum bans and game bans to be lifted. We are working towards doing YOU a FAVOR. Please.... Keep it up and give me a reason to just mute you again. Since trying to be polite and helpful doesn't seem to work I'll just continue to be a horrible moderator. Please give me a reason. Your group has made it clear that you believe I am some broke redneck old fart that has nothing to live for in life except for this forum. Give me a reason to prove you right by sitting here every day and ban every account you make. Enough is enough. This community is divided on this topic of the "group" but if you start your crap again I will ban you from this forum once again. The only person who will lift it will be Jitspoe.
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^ I'm sorry for not seeing the joke in it, didn't mean for a huge thing to come out of it. I didn't ask for my forum ban to be lifted, though I felt there wasn't valid reason for the length (You told me on IRC that it was to prevent any potential distribution, which is understandable).
Please don't generalize Chemical, and whoever else for the entire group. I've never said anything about: "Your group has made it clear that you believe I am some broke redneck old fart that has nothing to live for in life except for this forum" -- Might've called you old before, but that's about it. Not much of an insult... you can call me young if you want?
I'm curious (not trying to start stuff) as to what "crap" we're starting? I'm having a conversation with blaa - there's been no flaming, no personal attacks, it's just been a back-and-forth conversation about the bans. Isn't that what the forums is for? I've already spoken with Jitspoe a few times, and know how things are going to work.
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i hope you arent including me in that group. i havent said anything about you -_-. i was also never forum banned which leads me to believe that you arent talking about me.
on a side note you should start playing again, imo the reason people didnt like knack and seem to be hating on you is because you give your input on everything when you arent a part of the playing community. (im not agreeing with it thats just my take on it)
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To Myers
If life was fair, a cop would get way bigger punishments than ordinary citizens do for breaking the law. The group with 1000+ day bans wasn't a group of ignorant kids who were simply downloading hacks to be better, they were people who had enough experience to know all the implications and outcomes of hacking. They knew full well why it is wrong, yet they did it anyway. Especially you and idias. You've been defending hackers for all your life, you've seen every nook and corner, there is nothing you shouldn't know (the fact that you aren't an idiot makes it even worse). Idias was even in the committee, he knew even more of what's going on, except that he's quite young so he is more clueless in that way. But still, seeing you two hack shows how bad you currently are as people.
Aside from that,
Bans are there for 3 reasons:
-To prevent the crime from being done.
-To punish the person who broke the law in order to satisfy the people who didn't break the law.
-To get rid of bad people.
Temporary bans are there for 3 additional reasons, but I'll only say one, which is to give ignorant people who weren't really thinking a chance to realise what they've done.
If you plan ahead and take a ban because you know you can take it, the ban should be made higher than what you were expecting it to be. Otherwise it does not serve as a punishment. The first reason for temporary bans becomes nullified as well.
And another point. You didn't break the law outside on the streets where you're allowed to be. You broke the law on someone else's property. The property owner doesn't have to think about consistency one bit like a cop would because he has every right to kick you out from his lawn. In Texas they're even allowed to shoot you. Why the hell are you complaining about consistency where it isn't required? He's being abnormally kind as it is. The size of the impact you have does matter. If you were to, lets say, make jitspoe depressed and plan on suicide, I would have nothing against seeing you guys get permanent bans. Yet I'm sure you'd still complain about how it isn't consistent at all and that you should be getting 32/64 days. Are you really that narrow minded?
Please try to understand my point of view at least.
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If life was fair, everyone would be treated equally, in every system, it wouldn't matter on race, sexuality, color, religion. etc... Everyone would be treated equally
i dont know why this topic is still even alive... cant u all w8. Man, jits working his ass for this game [came online at 1:08 am, and jitspoe was online till 3 somthing am maybe even longer beause i went offline] Jitspoe cant just give up his time for all of us, soo why dont you guys stop posting and start thinking. Like flip said " jitspoe is working on our bans" soo please, give him time.
flip, not everyone hates you. Its beacuse most of the fourms people just think you banned them for "no reason". and as for my response to your comment on my quote, you are not the one to decide who "diserves to be banned or punished" because you dont know if their going to change or not, so the best option is giving a secound chance..... by the way i never said "life is fair"
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They hate me because I am not blind to their nonsense and can not be persuaded to listen to the lies. I believe just the opposite. I believe it is because of my beliefs AND the fact I have been such an active member of this community is the reason for the hatred. Then there are the hangers on. Take haze for an example. I looked up to him when I first joined the game because he took the time to show me a thing or two when I was new. I have always talked highly of him and have never been rude or anything to the guy. Then here he is posting nonsense, asking for pics of my wife (which yeah some of the pics aren't so great when she's preganant but I can gar'un'tee given his age if I post any pictures of how she looked at HIS age she would be something he could only dream about), and insulting me. All because of this "group". Do I still think highly of him? nope. Then there are people like shk. I stood by him during the hacusations, stood up for him in threads quite a few times, and never had any bad dealings with him. Even when I started to believe he hacked the two of us were able to discuss things without it becoming personal. Then there is you. You were banned from these forums. It was not me who banned you but I AM the person you came to when you asked for help. Why is that? Let us look at Myers. He used to write me all the time on irc. Did I believe everything that came out of his mouth? Nope. Did I believe some of it? Yup. Ask Myers if he ever came to me for help. Even when he went so far to insult me in these forums, falsley accused me of being his leak, and quite a bit of other things I never once got rude or hateful to him. Guess my age REALLY does show here huh? lol.
If you doubt my "activeness" in this game feel free to just look up InT. How many people came through there that Myself and others worked with and introduced them to the community? Feel free to search for the threads and read all the ridicule we got from the people here. We still managed to make it for a long time. I still talk to a lot of people from those days because we made such good friendships. Then came the committee. The people on the committee do spend a lot of their own free time to help make decisions and provide input. They do NOT get paid in any shape form or fashion to provide these services. Look at Jimmy. He works harder than most and doesn't complain as much as he should. But then I volunteer for the moderator slot to help out. So yeah. I am active here. I am actually productive in a GOOD way. I don't interfere with the committee work. I do NOT manipulate people for my own personal gain, I do NOT cheat, and I enjoy video games. I would say I am a positive person here.
It is amazing at how many pm's and emails I received telling me the "group" was aliasing on the forums. Even some of their "supporters" must not like them too much. lol. All of this doesn't really matter too much to me anymore. I proved my point when the "group" got their bans. I proved my point by being me and always sticking up for what I think is right. I proved my point by continously being my polite, respectful self. Maybe I'll reinstall the game sometime when MW3 gets old. I just don't have that much time since I play that and it's snowboarding season. Who knows....
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If life was fair, everyone would be treated equally, in every system, it wouldn't matter on race, sexuality, color, religion. etc... Everyone would be treated equally
Why should everyone be treated equally? Not everyone deserves it.
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^ I'm sorry for not seeing the joke in it, didn't mean for a huge thing to come out of it. I didn't ask for my forum ban to be lifted, though I felt there wasn't valid reason for the length (You told me on IRC that it was to prevent any potential distribution, which is understandable).
Please don't generalize Chemical, and whoever else for the entire group. I've never said anything about: "Your group has made it clear that you believe I am some broke redneck old fart that has nothing to live for in life except for this forum" -- Might've called you old before, but that's about it. Not much of an insult... you can call me young if you want?
I'm curious (not trying to start stuff) as to what "crap" we're starting? I'm having a conversation with blaa - there's been no flaming, no personal attacks, it's just been a back-and-forth conversation about the bans. Isn't that what the forums is for? I've already spoken with Jitspoe a few times, and know how things are going to work.
"Nope, had to be ignorant. Couldn't resist? Even as a moderator? Can't put your personal issues with players away? You went offtopic, thanks for showing us what types of posts are deemed "okay" now!"
Calling someone ignorant isn't personal? Insinuating I was being a horrible moderator? Claiming that I am being "personal". I went off-topic? He stated he got friends to join. I replied to his statement. That is off-topic? Isn't your post about me off-topic? You couldn't say what you have to say in a pm? l
You ARE making it personal. You're "group" is making it personal. Me banning you wasn't personal. You getting banned by jitspoe wasn't me being personal. If someone hacks they deserve to be punished. Deal with the truth. Ask your buddy in the committee who the first person to agree with jits on unbanning the "group" was. If it was PERSONAL why are you posting here? Oh wait... I UNBANNED you just like I did everyone else. It's cool though... I see how you are trying to imply it is ME being personal.
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It's called a modify button for a reason.............................
but shet dugguh, you're taking it way further then it was ever meant to be.
Ignorance is a way of acting, and I felt your post showed ignorance, thus you were being ignorant. I didn't say you were an ignorant person. Disagreeing with your methods of moderating, doesn't mean I think you're a horrible moderator. Dugguh u b takin diz ish outta context, yadig?
Your first post could've been cut up into multiple paragraphs, I did not enjoy reading it and I don't know what to reply to it... basically, nobody is questioning your moderating skills, or activeness. You disapeared for a while, sure, but it's a break from a game.
K, don't know what else to say to you... I'm not trying to make anything personal... but yeah.... uhm k.
TO JOONAS BROTHER:
cwutididther?
Okay, Uhm... real life and digital life can't be compared, but sure if that analogy works for you...
I knew the consequences going in, and was like: sheeet mayun, imma get like 64 days, nbd. And boom, got blindsided with 3 years. So yeah, I knew better, I deserved a longer ban. And it's Jitspoe's game, he can do what he wants. I'm not arguing any of that.
I've argued inconsistencies (which I can easily point out MANY) , where other players, who played longer than me, had normal times etc.. - and that everyone says "this game sucks!!!" when they get banned. Why is our case 960days worse? To be honest, I'm all for perma bans, but I'd like to see consistency. I'm arguing for it, because all games that survive are consistent. It removes the "favourites" aspect, since distributors have been unbanned in this game, after like 100-200 days (some even while being known to evade, so they didn't serve any ban time).
I'm also not arguing to get unbanned, I've asked for them to be reviewed. If Jitspoe feels that I'm some kind of cancer to the community, and leaves my ban, than so be it.
But yeah, Joonas, I'm not trying to argue my ban or anything. I cheated - got a ban time. I'm not trying to get unbanned. I'm asking for my ban to be reviewed, since what people fail to see is that these weren't the set ban times. There was a lot of assumed distribution going on, in Jitspoe's eyes, so he gave these bans until he could get to the bottom of it. He only found chalk to be innocent so far - which is why he got unbanned after 32days. Now he's planning on continuing to review these bans after he finishes the current build. It's not like we're coming back to complain about the length, we're asking when it will be reviewed.
Regardless, I understand what you're saying.
PS - fl1p go on irc plzzzzzzzzz
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I used to win long winded debates like this on the forums... Then I thought, why...?
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+1 for flip
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Go flip!!!
@Myers "PS - fl1p go on irc plzzzzzzzzz"
You ask him to get on irc to talk about this, im sure. Yet, you start your post with more insulting.
"It's called a modify button for a reason"
"but shet dugguh, you're taking it way further then it was ever meant to be. "
You say he's being ignorant. You say ignorance is a way of "acting." Ignorance isn't a way of "acting." Ignorance is not having knowledge on a particular subject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
You can't hold someone being ignorant against them because it is not a willful act. People take offense to it because the word carries a negative connotation, the "N" word even came from it. Your use of the word was purely to insult, end of story.
Let us examine your behavior, since you say he's "acting." You make a multi forum acct, spam a bunch of threads just to flame people, then try to defend yourself while still flaming people. This seems a lot worse to me than someone taking things personal or not having knowledge of a particular subject. As flip mentioned, your group of friends and/or you made things personal. You can't get mad at someone for making things personal or for befriending people who get out of line. It is natural for people to assume guilt by association. Its one of the reasons I thought a lot of you and your friends hacked when I thought shk did. Furthermore, you have been "acting" as if your vocabulary was purely ebonic just to color your insults.
You also say you've served your ban time for your actions, yet you avoid another ban to try and prove some points and piss some people off.
Wow. Pathetic.
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Wahoo FLIP and GONUTS
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snowboarding? lies! theres no snow! :( meddling mountains in maine are all ice. LAME!
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snowbikes are way better
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PEOPLE RELEAX, ITS JUST A GAME. IM SURE JITSPOE IS GETTING TO OUR CASES, SO HAVE SOME DESCNCY TO GIVE JITSPOE THE TIME TO SOLVE THE CASE
naa snowmoblies are muccchhhh better | |
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Gonass - How am I avoiding another ban? And I never said I 'served' my ban - I've said I served the standard ban time for my offence, infact I've over doubled it. I'm not asking anyone to unban me, I'm curious as to when they'll be reviewed.
Proof that I made a buncha multi forum accounts? I will admit to making a few posts with multi's, but I wasn't the one using them to troll forums.
Also, I wasn't being serious when I originally replied to flip.
Lastly, there's nothing in this thread that I'd need to talk to flip about, so how is me asking him to go on IRC relevant to these posts? I've given my info to Jitspoe - and it's him reviewing the ban times. So nigguh stop speakin outcho ass, iight? And I never denied being a cocky, arrogant, childish, black, individual. I act how I is, ya dig? or ya need a shovel? shet.
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" I've said I served the standard ban time for my offence"
"And I never said I 'served' my ban "
Practically same thing.
"And I never denied being a cocky, arrogant, childish, black, individual."
Didn't say you denied it. I said that you do it to color your flames.
"I act how I is, ya dig? or ya need a shovel? shet."
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+100 to Joonas. After blaa and partially Myers the third one in this thread who's able to point out his opinion with clear arguments, and more important, without insults.
As for Flip, I used to have trouble understanding him as well. When I got to know he has at least 15 years more experience in life, things started to change. I don't want to sound like your father or any other random old prick, but the older I get the more I appreciate people with such experience. The next time you discuss with Flip, remember he's at least double your age and respect him accordingly. Knowing Flip a little, I'm sure he'll respond in a respectful way as well.
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1- You'd be surprised what stuff players have problems with. You see the questions asked in #paintball - to us they seem retardedly simple, to them it's useful. That being said, it may not be the most useful thing ever, but it's still better than nothing. I'm not suggesting this should have any affect in his ban review - but players should ignore his ban and support when he tries to help the community.
2- We skipped the: "YOU HACKED MY COMPUTER! I DIDNT CHEAT" stage (besides Reaver) - and went to the "This game blows! 'x' game is soo much better!" -- It happens in EVERY ban... we just skipped some steps, and mocked a little more. That warrants a 64day ban to be 1024? Okay. Also, specific to Reaver -- Everyone read Foxhound's ban thread, he made a bigger deal than Reaver, so why does Reaver get a really high ban, yet Foxhound had a normal one? hmmm... consistency please.
Also - No I cannot answer that for the entire group, or even myself. But is that a reason to not let players back? I can say "We'll never cheat again!" but it's solely speculation, or assumption. I don't plan on it, can't speak for anyone else - they'll say they don't plan on it, but eh, so did Homingbullet every time. But why did players such as Homingbullet get 4-5 chances? Yet, you're against our group getting their 1st, or 2nd chances? hmmm... consistency please.
3- Fair enough. Kinda ironic Sata and I can't remember who else, got banned while being in [q] - hey look Sata is still in. Must hate those hackers. hmmm... consistency please.
4- I told Jitspoe not to worry about unbanning people until he has the time, and to put developing the game first. He has his priority list, and will get to it in time. So this reviewing doesn't affect his time working on DP.
5- Riddick and Chemical are idiots. nuff sed. But don't generalize an entire group for two people.
6- We cheated, reported ourselves (in a mocking way) - then after getting banned turned it in. It would've been a better idea to send it just to Jitspoe, sure, but regardless he got the cheats and explanations the same day we reported ourselves. It was just done in a.. stupid way. Guess that warrants an extra 960 days?
Blaa, I didn't see you caring when distributors in this community got unbanned... guess they're cool? Also, my question back: Given the normal ban times, was what we did deserving of 960 more days than normal? (We've served 160+ so far) -- or do you feel more that you'd just rather Jitspoe not have to waste time? (Even though he set it up like this so he wouldn't waste time later if he made a mistake).
Foxhound: We turned in the cheats and info after actually getting banned. I suppose he meant something like we didn't turn ourselves in when we found the undetectable cheat, which we did know was undetectable as Cyntex was using it since June.
1- Yeah, and even those videos will not help them. I would love to be proven wrong by somebody saying "wow, thanks, chemical, these videos really helped me to use google". female dog please, you know that these videos are awful.
Besides, there are tutorials to cover almost everything you need to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI239XH0PSM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kqVM-inhc&feature=related
2- You got 1024 days, instead of 64. Afaik some are already unbanned? Anyway, I don't care that you got punishmant 'too much'. Normal players never hack. I'm a normal player. I don't care about it. Maybe you shouldnt have hacked? JUST MAYBE MAN
3- Didn't know sata have been banned. While we're at it, magalhaes and dave have been banned too. What's this consistency you are talking about? As much as I remember, your groups case is kind of unique, so far.
4- Have you seen the feature vote page? I doubt jitspoe finishes all that before your bans run out... :D lol have fun
5- Ok, i don't generalize your group as idiots. I generalize you as hackers.
6- I agree totally.
Please, go through all my posts. I doubt you will find me defending a cheater.
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You're lucky fl1p and I didn't get to create the ban times for the committee... One hack and it's perma-banned. You all should be thankful for only getting 1024 days. And now you say it's not fair? How was it fair for the rest of the community that you hacked against them??? Where's our fairness? All you're doing is thinking about yourselves to get unbanned, and not what's best for the community. Go back to playing those other games you were all so happy to leave here to play.
Myer's, you used to be cool, until you jumped in the group with shk and chemical. Now you're just the same as them. :-\
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jusu that was by far the dumbest post ive ever seen. if you want to spew crap out of your mouth like that you should do it elsewhere. so tell me why havent the (obviously i havent been counting 10-100 people who have been banned since us) received 1054 days? did they not hurt the community? wheres the fairness? i mean didnt they hurt the community just as much? i think its obvious that all you're doing is thinking for yourself.
P.S. this isnt a personal issue just pointing out the HUGE FLAW in your post. id agree with you whole heartedly if everyone after us got 1054 days and it started with us but picking out individuals is why the committee is flawed. if i were in the committee i wouldnt look at names or how it would effect me id look at the FACTS. kthxbai
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Its 1024, jesus maria.
Special ban for the special kids :)
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i got 1054 as did a few others. amusing that youd point out a 30 day difference rather then attempt to argue with me ( you must know im right)
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@blaa:
2- We never got a 1024 ban, we got a temporary ban until Jitspoe could find out who truly distributed and who didn't, then he'd change them. Nobody is arguing their ban times are too long, since nobody knows what their actual ban time will be, until Jitspoe reviews it. The punishment hasn't been set yet, and I don't think anyone (Jitspoe, or the cheaters) are really in a hurry. I'm not arguing to get unbanned, I've given my stuff in, and that's it. The posts in this thread have no impact on my status. Jitspoe found out that chalk had little impact on the situation, that's why he got banned. (Then he found out he made a mistake on that, which is delaying everyone else from getting unbanned).
3- Our group case isn't unique, it was a group cheating that has happened before, many times. (Rick/Cuso modded maps, Ij spiked models etc.etc...) -- and I was just pointing out, for somebody so against hackers, you support them enough to still clan with them.
4- He's finishing the current build, before reviewing the ban times. Not the entire feature vote page.
5- Riddick "didnt cheat" - so how can you call him a hacker?!?!
6- So you think, based off every ban that has happened in dp2, it's fair to add 960days to people on their 1st or 2nd offenses, for mockingly reporting themselves? I understand cheating is unwanted, but if both cheated, how does the means in getting caught multiply your ban soo much - but Homingbullet and co got to cheat 4+ times before getting that many days? (Even though, 1024 isn't our ban, just looking at it this way for now).
@Jusu:
Perma-ban would be better, or at least on 2nd offense probably. However, this game doesn't draw in enough players - considering most of the active community has cheated before. But anyways, perma bans are the better way to go, as long as it's consistent. Also, I consider 1024 pretty permanent. Assuming Jitspoe says: You all are keeping 1024, so that turns out to be our actual bantime - how is it fair that every other cheater doesn't get it? What makes us so different? Cause we knew better? Ij played longer than all of us, and had a group "spiked model" cheating... PS- I didn't leave for another game, I left for school, which I'll be starting back in 2 days.
The same could be said to you, couldn't it? About being 'cool' until joining a different group, then the group defines you. Kazee/TiNi/Summit/Circa quit on meh, so shk/chem adopted me. lolzjk I still think you're cool.
@Riddick:
Bro stop posting, you make everyone generalize our group as idiots. lyk shet man.
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if i were in the committee i wouldnt look at names or how it would effect me id look at the FACTS.
That's how things work out as well now.
I guess you need no reminder that bans for cheating/hacking/modifying content are all dealt with by Jitspoe himself. The committee does have nothing to do with your ban, or with any of the others. All we can do for you is pass on info to Jitspoe, but I think it's easier to contact him directly.
It's ok to hate the committee, but seriously, come with some good arguments and stop blaming the committee for everything that goes wrong in your opinion. Could you do me that favor?
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Hacking is a punishable crime, even if this is 'just a game', without rules a game cannot be fun. However those rules should be kept consistent to stop arguments.
Jitspoe implemented rules, which he upkeeps very well for someone with limited time, alongside good developments for the game. The committee members are also a useful and nice group of people. Flaming them is dikfoolery.
The banned group of people are a mixture of smart and stupid people. Some Id like to see unbanned, some I wouldnt, purely out of personal preference. However, in all fairness, they should all be reviewed equally. Even if they acted like complete meddling idiots after they got banned, they should get a separate punishment for that, and a separate punishment for the hacking.
Any opinions or views presented by people on the case are irrelevant, unless if they have some direct and concrete information. Even then, there is a lot which is not known about the case by the community, from unseen conversations to pale lies.
I personally think we should all just move the f on. If you carefully read all the posts, even Myers seems to be growing out of his argumentative in-your-face flaming self (somewhat, its a work in progress).
We can all agree that hacking is bad, and that Jits has a limited amount of time, but then again, these bans should be reviewed fairly. This is an aspect of the game's system which has been make to create fairness. Yeah its unfair that they hacked, but that does not matter, the system we have is one in which reviewing of hacks and bans used a personal tone to make things fair. Yeah some will say 'these kids deserve 1024 days because theyre a bunch of kunts', but thats irrelevant. Just let Jits and the Committee do their work, theyre here for a reason :)
And you know Im right, because I speak with a British Accent.
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@myers
actually its because they're grouping my posts together with yours when they have no correlation at all.
@pvtjimmy
you do realize this is my 1st post even mentioning the committee and its because of a post by jusu that portrayed the committee in a bad light. how is that my fault?
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@pvtjimmy
you do realize this is my 1st post even mentioning the committee and its because of a post by jusu that portrayed the committee in a bad light. how is that my fault?
All I still see is crying over personal bans... And what is this with me portraying the committee in a bad light??? HAHA! Oh man the things these kids try to use out of the posts is hilarious. Did I say I'd vote for special ban times for you? No. I said we'd want all hackers banned permanently... Still think about your own self and thinking you're an exception I see.
[P.S. I used the word 'kid' to entice you into the typical rage, rawr!]
@Riddick:
Bro stop posting, you make everyone generalize our group as idiots. lyk shet man.
And myers, ^ truth. LOL
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K my last post here:
Riddick, why do you even post about your ban. You "didn't cheat" - so it's obviously just a matter of time before Jitspoe realizes he banned you without anything, and you were right all along, forcing him to unban you...
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apparently you arent even in the committee so not sure why you're acting as though you are
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It's been myers dream to be on the Digital Paintball Committee. So since they turn him down he just likes to pretend. Just let him be Riddick.
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We need to make a petition to get rid of that flip guy or something. He sucks at moderating. Myers point is valid about how he brings negativity and then abuses his authority as a moderator. He's like a little kid, very immature. And to think he has a wife and kids, by the way he acts, i don't believe it. blaa is a little retard too, if he's in the committee, he should get thrown out. word to mother!
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We need to make a petition to get rid of that flip guy or something. He sucks at moderating. Myers point is valid about how he brings negativity and then abuses his authority as a moderator. He's like a little kid, very immature. And to think he has a wife and kids, by the way he acts, i don't believe it. blaa is a little retard too, if he's in the committee, he should get thrown out. word to mother!
Please do. I'm sure jitspoe will review it and act accordingly. You should make sure you spend some time gathering information and stuff about how my "moderating skills" are horrible as opposed to my "being a member of this community". While you're at it, you should pm the other moderators here who still moderate the forums without participating in the discussions to see if they would sign your petition.
(space for myers)
Wait. You did know that I am not the ONLY moderator didn't you? And here you thought all your pointless posts and topics were annoying only me. *sigh* Maybe it is because I have kids that I don't get annoyed at your comments and just continue on my way. I know I should have listened to jitspoe when he first gave me advice on how to moderate this forum but the kind heart I have just couldn't pull the trigger on bans without giving people another chance.
(space for myers)
My negativity? How am I negative? Please explain. I stay fairly up beat most of times. My comments about hackers being banned is negative? I'm lost here haze. Maybe you should point it out a little more clearly for me.
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Why should everyone be treated equally? Not everyone deserves it.
this quote is gud flipper.
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LOLZ COOL STORY BRO!
Either you're trying to be funny (which didn't work) - or you struggled to understand his very simply put sentence.
Yeah, it's the COMPETITIVE community that make new players quit, sure. Not the ignorant forumers who always put down individuals who try to help the game, regardless of how useful or not what they're doing is, when they do jack shet.
Couldn't of just not posted? Or said: Good job on putting effort towards this game!
Nope, had to be ignorant. Couldn't resist? Even as a moderator? Can't put your personal issues with players away? You went offtopic, thanks for showing us what types of posts are deemed "okay" now!
Myers and i may not get along but i agree with what he's trying to point out. his point is valid. Is this clear enough for you flip? Im the boss of this boat, you can call me skipper. The way i turn money over, you can call me flipper.
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And try not to write a book for us to read you uneducated african american.
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I'd like haze's prior comments and any thereafter stricken from the record.
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I also petition to delete all of haze's flame posts above...
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ill sign the petition to ban Haze off the forums
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same
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We need to make a petition to get rid of that flip guy or something. He sucks at moderating. Myers point is valid about how he brings negativity and then abuses his authority as a moderator. He's like a little kid, very immature. And to think he has a wife and kids, by the way he acts, i don't believe it. blaa is a little retard too, if he's in the committee, he should get thrown out. word to mother!
agreed.
not with the blaa part, hes cool !
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I also petition to delete all of haze's flame posts above...
I'm in as well, at least for the unnecessary insults
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Shut up kids, and go get people to play this game. Do your mothers know you're ghey?
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How about you go get people.
What have you done to bring in new players other than blame everyone else for NOT doing something or for banning people?
Isn't your mother dead haze?
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i agree with myles about getting ACTIVE players from the communittee to help out cuz INACTIVE people like me wont. theres a reason why were inactive and its cuz its not fun anymore for us to play this game, we dont care about it as much anymore we have other better stuff to do. an active player would want to ENHANCE their game play and would be more motivated to help out than someone like me or flip. And the communittee needs to know what rules the committee aren't allowed to break, or how to get rid of a committee member that's a pest. this will keep the committee in line because theyre nobody special anyway, they dont help the communittee grow infact the communitee is decreasing.
gonass here ya go... and my mom isn't dead. let me get some feedback. and is your mom dead?
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haze seriously, learn to use the MODIFY-Button.
if there is not any post about the real topic of this tread, it maybe should be closed.
*excusing 4 english*
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I used to win long winded debates like this on the forums... Then I thought, why...?
I used to win long winded debates like this on the forums... But then I took an arrow to the knee. *Fixed
Couldn't resist.
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I used to win long winded debates like this on the forums... But then I took an arrow to the knee. *Fixed
Couldn't resist.
oh dear :p
and this should be renamed to 'DP Community should do something...seriously', as a lot of us are quite lazy when it comes to contributing, but first to shout when we think someone else should so some work. (obvs there are exceptions to this rule)
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i was under the impression that the committee was here to aid or benefit the game and not act as police officers and citating people who do something that they don't like, by banning them. all i got to say 2 wrongs don't make a right, i may do something wrong and the committee does the same, except i get banned for it. unless the committee aids/benefits the game theyre useless. so why not push them in the right direction? this is why i made the topic as committee and not community. if the committee is getting special treatment they should do something to give back to the community. banning people for speaking their mind is not giving back. they should be forced to delete the reply if they don't like it.
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My mother is still alive for now. She has a brain tumor. My girlfriend's mother passed away from cancer.
Keep in mind, jitspoe does the actual banning, not the committee. You can't complain about the committee banning people.
You didn't answer my question. Why don't you go out and get people instead of spending all this time complaining?
What have you done to get people here?
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My mother is still alive for now. She has a brain tumor. My girlfriend's mother passed away from cancer.
Anyone can give up smoking, but it takes a man to face cancer.
*True Story
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Gonass: ACTIVE players from the communittee would be better at helping out cuz INACTIVE people like me wont. theres a reason why im inactive and its cuz its not as fun anymore, for me to play this game, like it was when i was active. i dont care about it as much anymore and have other stuff to do. an active player would want to ENHANCE their game play and would be more motivated to help out than someone like me. someone should think of a way for this to work. i would like to see this game active like it used to be 5+ years ago. maybe we need to lure quake pros or something to play this game to enhance the match scene.
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flip: is a good guy, he should get his moderator status back.
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Gonass: ACTIVE players from the communittee would be better at helping out cuz INACTIVE people like me wont. theres a reason why im inactive and its cuz its not as fun anymore, for me to play this game, like it was when i was active. i dont care about it as much anymore and have other stuff to do. an active player would want to ENHANCE their game play and would be more motivated to help out than someone like me. someone should think of a way for this to work. i would like to see this game active like it used to be 5+ years ago. maybe we need to lure quake pros or something to play this game to enhance the match scene.
Then why worry about it if you are inactive?
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Then why worry about it if you are inactive?
why not