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Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: Olbaid on March 16, 2008, 03:28:54 AM
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During this intense match on blitz.bsp, we at CC noticed that these two individuals kept twitching to their own players. So we decided to chase each one and we firmly believe that it is quite obvious they are using some sort of aim bot. Enjoy.
http://loluploads.com/453604 - Bix's demo
Times:
10:40
10:17
9:50
8:25
http://loluploads.com/223916 - My demo
Times:
17:12
15:44
15:06
14:55
14:27
9:20
http://loluploads.com/083468 - Rest of my demo
It appears that wanted turned his off when he lagged out.
Time:
8:20
After the match was over, Bix went to darkness since he seems to always know what hacks are being distributed around. Sure enough Darkness already knew about this hack and confirmed it existed. He claimed MadMan is giving it out to others with a whole set of hacks.
(03:10:28) <@bix> <bix> so madman has been giving out aimbots
(03:10:28) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> yeah lol
(03:10:28) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> amongst other things
(03:11:05) <@bix> <bix> and sits exactly on our teams face
(03:11:05) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> whole texture set
(03:11:05) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> modded paint splats and excrement
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Haha. When we matched their clan every qehs guys including me said that homingbullet is using an aimbot.
I hope they get caught cause i am 100% sure they are using one.
Also when HomingBullet came to server he reconnected right away... Possibly turned aimbot on?
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Hmm, ive played them but i havent noticed anything real different about their gameplay/aim...
I get owned still so yer. Nothing has changed :)
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lol
I think if they was aimbottin i would know.
They dont hack trust me.
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lol
I think if they was aimbottin i would know.
They dont hack trust me.
I dont trust you atmays. :'(
Just kidding!!!
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14:27 was funny.
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I got a kick out of the constant spaz to his own players.
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Clearly an aimbot.
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During this intense match on blitz.bsp, we at CC noticed that these two individuals kept twitching to their own players. So we decided to chase each one and we firmly believe that it is quite obvious they are using some sort of aim bot. Enjoy.
http://loluploads.com/453604 - Bix's demo
Times:
10:40
10:17
9:50
8:25
http://loluploads.com/223916 - My demo
Times:
15:44
15:06
14:55
14:27
9:20
http://loluploads.com/083468 - Rest of my demo
It appears that wanted turned his off when he lagged out.
Time:
8:20
After the match was over, Bix went to darkness since he seems to always know what hacks are being distributed around. Sure enough Darkness already knew about this hack and confirmed it existed. He claimed MadMan is giving it out to others with a whole set of hacks.
(03:10:28) <@bix> <bix> so madman has been giving out aimbots
(03:10:28) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> yeah lol
(03:10:28) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> amongst other things
(03:11:05) <@bix> <bix> and sits exactly on our teams face
(03:11:05) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> whole texture set
(03:11:05) <@bix> <DaRkNeSS|bbl> modded paint splats and excrement
K This is madman.. First off..I dont do excrement with DP besides IDLE mirc. and if i wanted to give out hacks i meddling would.. Darkness go kill yourself you punk bundle of twigs.. seriously.. Go talk excrement some1 else.. and Baid.. For you to think its me.? wtf... thats about stupid as intercourse... Darkness is just trying to be a punk meddling female dog cuz he is a worthess bundle of twigs. Seriously guys grow the intercourse up... and keep my name outta your mouth.. its not a detective. k meddling thx. stupid intercourses... the hacks i have on a video are detectable too.. stupid donkey darkness. i will send you a meddling razor blade to kill yourself. (quote from MaDiZzLe)
User banned for this post.
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Classic Steamage never gets old.
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Aside from the arguement with Madman, those two guys are using an aim bot in my opinion. I have seen people with aim bots and the demo shows the classic "snapping to an opponent" but I guess his programming skills are that good see as he was snapping to his own team too.
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lol wow are u guys serious???? i dont deny the fact that i got an aimbot which I'm practicing in urban terror called mombot, as do many players of DP but the fact that i use if for paintball is a complete lie!!! i have played paintball to long to hack. mombot is also a know bot that does not work on digital paintball.
EDIT: i have watched the demos and this is how we always play. I don't understand as there is not out of the ordinary in the demos.
EDIT: I got a kick out of the constant spaz to his own players.-spook .
spook do you never have your crosshairs on your own teammate in a match when u are unsure whether its your teammate or not?
EDIT: this is the funniest stuff ever if i get banned from dp it will be so sad the fact that we beat cc means we got to be hacking wow. so sad they got beat fair and square if i get banned from dp for this it will be sad cause everything i do in dp is legit.
EDIT:Also a number of other little tidbits:
1) you go on a 3 streak against [CC] then lose to .eB-? One with hax on one with hax off maybe? Who knows just throwing out ideas.- deranged
deranged eb was 2v3 gainst our clan if we tried and played match completely we all know what would happen.
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If this guy is so pathetic to cheat elsewhere why do we think he won't here? Ban him.
And make it a real ban, not some 30 day joke. Folks deserve to know that cheaters are removed from the game.-m7
m7 first time offense is 32 day ban it would be wrong to punish us for long-term ban for something we didnt do. i play this game now for 6 years.... game is awesome people say why if we hack urt why not hack dp its simple dp is fun. urt i dont care about i play it once a month just fun to hack it.
EDIT: By the way i got to find the logs but bullet and me both recieved our mombot from reaver in S clan.
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lol wow are u guys serious???? i dont deny the fact that i got an aimbot which I'm practicing in urban terror called mombot, as do many players of DP but the fact that i use if for paintball is a complete lie!!! i have played paintball to long to hack. mombot is also a know bot that does not work on digital paintball.
EDIT: i have watched the demos and this is how we always play. I don't understand as there is not out of the ordinary in the demos.
EDIT: I got a kick out of the constant spaz to his own players.-spook .
spook do you never have your crosshairs on your own teammate in a match when u are unsure whether its your teammate or not?
Yeah thats how i play, i randomly spaz my crosshair to my own team, exactly on his face, then exactly to my other teammate behind the clear wall. after that i put it exactly on the other teams face!
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how would you not know if it's your teammate, lol...14:27 is a pretty good scene though.
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I'm sorry homing, but 10:17 AND 8:18 in bix's demo was just too blatant, your aim basically just cycled back and forth stopping directly on two players' heads. Before that I didn't believe it.
Sorry, but in conventional aiming, your aim just doesn't SNAP to players' heads like that. And especially it doesn't cycle back and forth between players in fractions of a second stopping on a meddling dime on them.
Also a number of other little tidbits:
1) you go on a 3 streak against [CC] then lose to .eB-? One with hax on one with hax off maybe? Who knows just throwing out ideas.
2) Bullet/want3d's aim style seems to completely change when he lags out. it doesn't seem to be as.. "precise"
3) If you hack in UrT, what's to keep that mentality from migrating into other games?
4) I know you and bullet/want3d are relatives, if one of you hacks it's not surprising that both of you hack.
I'm sorry, I'd like to believe you but those demos are just too blatant. I mean your aim doesn't even scroll between the players slowly, it just snaps dead on them instantly lol.
EDIT: Just watch baid's demo. I like want3d's 180 twitches when he gets capped on
EDIT2: It seems baid's demo is more focused on want3d, before it I though you were the only one hacking, homing, guess I was wrong. Same twitching, snapping, and player cycling. 9:20.. pretty funny. He just can't seem to get his aim to snap t othe right player :P
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lol wow are u guys serious???? i dont deny the fact that i got an aimbot which I'm practicing in urban terror called mombot, as do many players of DP but the fact that i use if for paintball is a complete lie!!! i have played paintball to long to hack. mombot is also a know bot that does not work on digital paintball.
EDIT: i have watched the demos and this is how we always play. I don't understand as there is not out of the ordinary in the demos.
EDIT: I got a kick out of the constant spaz to his own players.-spook .
spook do you never have your crosshairs on your own teammate in a match when u are unsure whether its your teammate or not?
If this guy is so pathetic to cheat elsewhere why do we think he won't here? Ban him.
And make it a real ban, not some 30 day joke. Folks deserve to know that cheaters are removed from the game.
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Yeah. I can't wait till Jitspoe reads this thread.
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homing dude ,,im not gonna look at the demos cause i really hope this excrement is false i really really do,,,,ur a 22 year old man same age as me, aibotting is for punk kid noobs who are really easily caught not for people who have experince in this game and have semi good skills,but homing i like ya but if it is proven that u hacked im gonna have to agree with with m7 with a longterm ban cause theres nothing worse to me than a hacker who just came back from a 30 day ban playing with people who have never cheated (DIPSET)
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I'm sorry homing, but 10:17 AND 8:18 in bix's demo was just too blatant, your aim basically just cycled back and forth stopping directly on two players' heads. Before that I didn't believe it.
I have to agree, 10:17 was definitely not natural aim.
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lol wow u guys r pathetic I like want3d's 180 twitches when he gets capped on.-deranged . do u guys know what recon is?
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<+MrLuke> lol i got mombot aswell
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> rofl
<@Want3d> <#
<+MrLuke> yeh cas theres no global
<%Rick> :)
<@Want3d> close enough
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> prob every1 does
<%Rick> thnx Want3d
<%Rick> Least u care
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> i got kicked for mombot in urt
<+MrLuke> same
02* %Rick (huh@Rick.Epworth.Walls_are_clear) Quit (Quit: <3 Want3d not any of u aholes)
<+MrLuke> i was usin aimb
<+MrLuke> thats when u get caught
<+MrLuke> lol
<+MrLuke> the 1 how u shoot ppl in ur croohairs pretty good
funny we talk about urt and u guys say its all dp mombot does not work on dp u fools.
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Homing you can say what you want, but honestly you're caught. Deal with it. That was not natural aim. Aim doesn't cycle like that.
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lmfao deranged its sad if we get banned cause those demos r of them getting owned so must mean we hack. i dont mind takin a time off from dp. wouldnt want to but oh well. looks like we getting banned for aimbot what a joke. one thing our clan in va does have is real good recon. u guys call em twiches lol.
EDIT: u know as well as me deranged that we real good at blitz and hardly anyone can beat us there. if u guys think we need to hack to win it why not get jits in blitz server get out clan and clan cc we can spec em and u guys can c the ownage
EDIT: m7 u say we shoot them to the head why does it mean the head lol. can u c where exactly the shot hits him if your that good please give me a ss.
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Re: HomingBullet and Wanted using an Aim bot?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 03:07:32 PM »
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What's interesting MadMan, aka homingbullet ( very appropriate....)
This does not put you in a very good light, same for Darkness.
But since you both have nothing to lose, it will be interesting what the committee has to say.-knack
knack i never distributed any hacks or create any hacks for dp so aka madman or darkness don't really go with this in any way except the fact that im charged guilty with using aimbot
EDIT: m7 not to be mean or anything seems to me like u r mad just at the fact that your not so good at this game and u want anyone better than u banned from this game completely. u say its funny how my aim shifts so fast from one player to the next. u do realize some people know when there opponents head is sticking out and when the other is hiding u try to kill the one in the open common sense m7 work on it
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Could someone make a regular video of just that segment on 10:17? I think it is quite clear it is not recon. He is looking right at the guy and his aim goes back and forth to their heads in very quick succession. It has nothing to do with recon.
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What's interesting MadMan, aka homingbullet ( very appropriate....)
This does not put you in a very good light, same for Darkness.
But since you both have nothing to lose, it will be interesting what the committee has to say.
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I Didn't know if you have good recon you will switch ur crosshair on ur own teammate for 1 second then shot 1 paintball on him then switch to enemy right away and hit him. Lmao.
And as Deranged said you got caught so deal with it. We all know you are using aimbot and it was 2 obvious when you were matching us in pbcup_pforest and antioch2.
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Making the 10:17 right now.
edit - http://loluploads.com/867427
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it will be interesting what the committee has to say.- KnacK
yes it will be interesting what the committee will have to say based on this inconclusive evidence.. if you seriously are trying to ban us do a better job next time.. FAIL
Note: Did any of you simply watch the demo and see what it has to show, or were you blinded by the upsetting belief that you keep losing to us and/or are terrible at this game? Think about it.
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I watched those demos several times and they all look obvious.
EDIT : Homingbullet , would be nice if you could send your demo of that match.
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I watched those demos several times and they all look obvious.-Byz
Watch them again.. Ignore the fact that you lost to us on pbcup_pforest and antioch2 and shazam22 when you ff'd. Your anger is leading you to false conclusions.
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it will be interesting what the committee has to say.- KnacK
yes it will be interesting what the committee will have to say based on this inconclusive evidence.. if you seriously are trying to ban us do a better job next time.. FAIL
Note: Did any of you simply watch the demo and see what it has to show, or were you blinded by the upsetting belief that you keep losing to us and/or are terrible at this game? Think about it.
I would like you to take in the fact that
A.) we were looking at demos from 2-3 weeks ago. scores were 50-6 and such.
B.) you are batantly using an aimbot, and a good aimbot at that.
C.) cheating is the only thing that let you win, we beat you on carp with ease, then antioch2(we said 10 maps and you said 1 so we agreed to it for tie) was a complete smashing. I believe somewhere in 30-15.
Finally - olbaid and myself went and looked through carp, we were skeptical but weren't sure so we didn't chase looking for cheats. Although, some of the shots were beyond ordinary and olbaid has 1 section where homingbullets aim goes between 2 of our players over and over.
Last but not least, if you guys aren't using any aimbot, could we see your demos? of carp and blitz?
EDIT - wanted posted while i was typing.
i believe we smashed you on antioch2.
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EDIT - wanted posted while i was typing.
i believe we smashed you on antioch2.- Bix
I believe you said this last match.. "Thanks for ruining the map by camping"
At about 9 minutes you champs in the lead by about 3 decide to camp a storm. GG
Think what you want.. We are not guilty. No demos necessary. FAIL
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Why are you two still arguing as if there isn't proof right there in full 32 bit color on my computer screen? Just because you're stupid enough to hack doesn't mean we're stupid enough to believe that's actually how you play.
Eyes don't deceive, take your month off. you've earned it.
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bix u say u guys smashed us on antioch2 why dont we get all the committe members to watch us play against u guys and they will watch us as we smash u guys. my wife came home i wasnt able to play antioch2 for tie map. if i continued to play u would have been smashed again one more time.
EDIT: Homigbullet could you send ur demo of blitz? -byz
sorry byz u dont deserve to c my demos i dont show no1 how i play. byz i understand your pain u get tore up in your euro server its okay u dont got to be mad. u talked the whole match like u pro. lmao.
EDIT: ill say it one more time please come watch us play cc lets do it. watch what happens. if they get raped means we hack. lol
EDIT: if u want to c the demo come watch us play.
EDIT: cc we love you guys but sorry we got to own u like that its what we do best!!! :D
EDIT: if u want my demo i charge $50 thats what i charge to show u my teqnique.
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watching over carp again, pretty funny, will post demo with times
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Homingbullet could you send ur demo of blitz?
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Homingbullet could you send ur demo of blitz?
If u didnt use an aimbot hommingbullet, then u can upload your demo, cause then, everyone will see if you used an aimbot or not
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Here is carp:
http://loluploads.com/992186
17:30
16:35
13:45
11:50
11:35
8:50
6:15
i got bored and stopped watching
GG, not as obvious but there
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Looks pretty blatant to me. The aimbot obviously has a culurweekness though, locking on to friendly players like that.
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If you are not willing to share demos, then why were demos taken?
Oh well....
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Here is carp:
http://loluploads.com/992186
17:30
16:35
13:45
11:50
11:35
8:50
6:15
i got bored and stopped watching
GG, not as obvious but there
6:15 looked very obvious.
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its clearly obvious that biz was aimbotting lol but had his fov set to 10 or 20 here he is shooting his own players. biz has his setting in his aimbot set very low and shoots his own players only when they r real close to his crosshair u can c when his players r in view his line shifts to them. or if they have each other in view they dont aim torward that direction for fear of being caught. its clear that cc had aimbot! lmfao u guys r trying to ban us for aimbot when in there case its even more obvious. watch that same demo that biz posted please
19:30
18:30
16:10
15:40
EDIT: byz its sad how u r saying that we r clearly aimbotting when u cant even see nothing there.
EDIT: im done debating whether we were hacking or not olbaid is one of the committee members so im sure nothing will happen to cc but what ever the committee decides im sure it will be reviewed and talked over so committee its all up to u.
deranged your a retarted kid who trying to act big none of this has to do with you so be quiet. aight big boy u obviously dont no anything about the aimbot cc uses. bix knows what im talking about and i know he will deny it
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Trying to cover up for your blatant hacks by saying someone who is obviously not hacking is. Gotta try to bring everyone down with you when you break the rules eh? How mature for a 22 year old married man.
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Lmao dude. Are you saying you dont see any suspicious in blitz or carpathian? And if you are saying you dont use aimbot send us your demo. Explain why you shoot your teammates then right away the enemy? It's so funny.
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Either way this outcome is, going to darkness for information is about as funny as a midget hitting a grown man in the crotch. Because darkness is full of excrement will always be full of excrement and is banned. Should have no impact of the situation and be ashamed you wasted your time asking him. He just loves to hear himself talk and nothing he says can be taken at face.
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A.) we were looking at demos from 2-3 weeks ago. scores were 50-6 and such.
C.) cheating is the only thing that let you win, we beat you on carp with ease, then Antioch2(we said 10 maps and you said 1 so we agreed to it for tie) was a complete smashing. I believe somewhere in 30-15.
t least, if you guys aren't using any aimbot, could we see your demos? of carp and blitz?
EDIT - wanted posted while i was typing.
i believe we smashed you on Antioch2.
WE didn't play CC a couple weeks ago. Considering I was uR and the bullets was vLt.
When we made vA our style of play changed.
And the last match wasn't a complete smashing. Carp and Antioch2 both was close maps. I believe we lost by 5 on Carp and 5 on Antioch2.
Not saying that is completely accurate i need to watch demos to see actual score but it was a close match. Why lie? You won the match.
I think at this point Jitspoe response is the only response I wanna see. His response the only one that matter.
I watched the demos and I don't think they are hacking and after playing with these dudes for along time you learn how they play and such. I always check where my teammates are giving the recon since vent could lag sometimes. On blitz shooting at your teammate, I don't stop shooting cause someone could easily do the big jump and MERK you. So don't release shoot. Same with Homing and Bullet.
They are not hacking.
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sorry byz u dont deserve to c my demos i dont show no1 how i play.
Then send your demo only to Jitz. He doesn't play much anyway and wouldn't care about your strategy. Then you could clear your name.
There, objection overcome.
On blitz shooting at your teammate, I don't stop shooting cause someone could easily do the big jump and MERK you. So don't release shoot. Same with Homing and Bullet.
They are not hacking.
I don't have any issue with lining, constantly shooting, or shooting in the direction of your teamate. The man's cursor jumped back and forth right to their heads in a split second. That is not normal procedure no matter how you cut it.
That demo of just the 10:17 incident didn't play for me. But if someone could make a fraps video of it I think it would be painfully obvious. This wasn't just spraying around a bit or getting a view of things while you hold down the button.
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doh, double.
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Completely obvious. Atmays should be banned for sticking up for them, and the hackers should get an even longer ban for trying to deny it.
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Really i cant really b bothered watching the demos. Many times I've played Homing and got owned (partly cos i suck) but he was getting me out of no-where. Didn't expect wanted to be a part of it though.
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Completely obvious. Atmays should be banned for sticking up for them, and the hackers should get an even longer ban for trying to deny it.
Im not sticking up for anyone im stating my opinion like everyone else here. Like I said its only one response that matters.
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They are not hacking.
That's not an opinion. That's a definite statemant. You shouldn't side with them when its obvious they are cheating.
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actually he thinks they're not hacking.
it's his opinion.
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actually he thinks they're not hacking.
it's his opinion.
Exactly, its his opinion, not what the demos may show.
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They dont hack trust me.
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Siding with rez here. A statement of an opinion is like "I don't think they hack", atmays was trying to state it like a fact. I doubt he's watched the demo, and if he did he is in some crazy kind of denial I've never even heard of.
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In the demos, it seemed that vA knew that they had an aim bot. Wanted and bullet were in the whole time (aside from the times they disconnected and reconnected) and were never 'subbed' out.
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lol deranged
and Garret why sub the guys doin the best
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lol deranged
and Garret why sub the guys doin the best
mabye cos they had teh hacks and the others didnt?
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LOL did they finally get caught? if so nice. been saying it for a while now.
I haven't watched the demo's but someone pasted the link here so i figured i'd check it out, update after i watch demo.
Pretty obvious Want3d is aimbotting.
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LOL did they finally get caught? if so nice. been saying it for a while now.
Alot of people have but alot of people just call it "skill"
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mabye cos they had teh hacks and the others didnt?
Seconded.
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So you tellin me that if you was doin bad and your other 2 guys are doin great. You want your sub to take the place of the guys doin good. What logic.
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In the demos, it seemed that vA knew that they had an aim bot. Wanted and bullet were in the whole time (aside from the times they disconnected and reconnected) and were never 'subbed' out.
LOLWUT GARRETT
As if you knew what you are talking about pal.
Yea bro, we knew the whole time. Thats why they wUz IN THERE BAWLiN. (/sarcasm)
LOL did they finally get caught? if so nice. been saying it for a while now.
I haven't watched the demo's but someone pasted the link here so i figured i'd check it out, update after i watch demo.
(they finally get caught?) That right there just made me lol.
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What atmays said could go either way. Why sub out some who is doing the best or why sub out someone who will do the best because they have the upper hand. I know what an aimbot looks like, and the one demo shows bullet snapping directly to the other guy and not even going off course at all. Or how about the time wanted made a complete 180 degree turn and shot bix. Snapping to an opponent is a shear sign of a third party program assisting a player. Don't ignore the facts or the evidence.
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What atmays said could go either way. Why sub out some who is doing the best or why sub out someone who will do the best because they have the upper hand. I know what an aimbot looks like, and the one demo shows bullet snapping directly to the other guy and not even going off course at all. Or how about the time wanted made a complete 180 degree turn and shot bix. Snapping to an opponent is a shear sign of a third party program assisting a player. Don't ignore the facts or the evidence.
Deranged said the same bout Fitz and 180 turns. Easy shot to make if everyone in vent screaming "BEHIND YOU!".
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Deranged said the same bout Fitz and 180 turns. Easy shot to make if everyone in vent screaming "BEHIND YOU!".
1st shot kill? I havnt watched the demos.
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He shots someone in front of him and before the person is even eliminated, he snapped 180 degrees and makes another elimination.
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1st shot kill? I havnt watched the demos.
Not hard to 1 shot kill someone directly behind you.
He shots someone in front of him and before the person is even eliminated, he snapped 180 degrees and makes another elimination.
PAnic kill or be killed. SO he spray at both tryna get them out or DIE.
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Deranged said the same bout Fitz and 180 turns. Easy shot to make if everyone in vent screaming "BEHIND YOU!".
LOL again, you wouldn't recon to turn completely around and shoot the other guy when the flag is about to cap. And he wouldn't when he knew the flag was right in front of him :/
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Nor is someones reactions that fast to hear someone say, behind you, eliminate someone and then 180 turn to eliminate someone else in one seconds time.
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Nor is someones reactions that fast to hear someone say, behind you, eliminate someone and then 180 turn to eliminate someone else in one seconds time.
How often do you play this game?
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15 hours a week or so.
Why do you deny facts and reality?
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really Garret i see you post on the forums alot but really I've never heard of you in game.
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really Garret i see you post on the forums alot but really I've never heard of you in game.
I play in pubs. I am not much a 'matching clan' type person. No time and not worth the frustration. How did this discussion turn into talking about me playing in game?
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Again, recon does not account for the "snapping" and "cycling" behavior in the first demo Bix posted at the 10: 17 mark.
Nor will ANY amount of reasoning get Homing out of what he already admitted to--he does use aimbots in games. He apparently claims he would not here. But even if that were true it would not be due to any actual ethical standards. He just wouldn't want to pay the price. He is a hacker. He needs a ban.
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m7 first time offense is 32 day ban it would be wrong to punish us for long-term ban for something we didnt do. i play this game now for 6 years.... game is awesome people say why if we hack urt why not hack dp its simple dp is fun. urt i dont care about i play it once a month just fun to hack it.
EDIT: By the way i got to find the logs but bullet and me both recieved our mombot from reaver in S clan.
Make your list of fellow hackers and distributers and bring your proof. That would be great. If the committee went for longer bans on distribution there is always hope they will realize the 32 day bans are pointless and kick you on out of here.
Doh, sorry knack, was sure there was a post there a second ago :)
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Again, recon does not account for the "snapping" and "cycling" behavior in the first demo Bix posted at the 10: 17 mark.
Not just 10:17, most of both of the demos exhibit the snapping behavior
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<+MrLuke> lol i got mombot aswell
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> rofl
<@Want3d> <#
<+MrLuke> yeh cas theres no global
<%Rick> :)
<@Want3d> close enough
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> prob every1 does
<%Rick> thnx Want3d
<%Rick> Least u care
01<@]vA[HomingBullet> i got kicked for mombot in urt
<+MrLuke> same
02* %Rick (huh@Rick.Epworth.Walls_are_clear) Quit (Quit: <3 Want3d not any of u aholes)
<+MrLuke> i was usin aimb
<+MrLuke> thats when u get caught
<+MrLuke> lol
<+MrLuke> the 1 how u shoot ppl in ur croohairs pretty good
funny we talk about urt and u guys say its all dp mombot does not work on dp u fools.
Is that the same MrLuke that is in InT? If so I will suggest to Mike that he boot him. I like him, but hackers have to go.
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Is that the same MrLuke that is in InT? If so I will suggest to Mike that he boot him. I like him, but hackers have to go.
Why would you do that? he hacked in UrT.
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Why would you do that? he hacked in UrT.
So you want to trust someone in your clan who you know cheats at other games because you hope they won't in this one? I am not in charge of InT anymore, so it is up to Mike. But if someone has cheated in the past there is an air of suspicion around them. We didn't want that.
Nor does whoever that was in the chat log, if it is legitimate, sound at all sorry for breaking the rules of that game. That is not what I want to be around.
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LoL. Just watched the demo. Loved how he shoots two of his players in the head then snaps to the enemy and nails his with an awesome headshot. They are aimbotting!
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i dont cheat in other games i went to have a go of UrT whilst my bro run of to do something .... which also did have mombot for UrT as soon i went to have a go i got kicked. lol
that was my BIG hacking experience. wow. dw about talking to mike about kicking me... i left InT basically because of what i said on irc. it clearly doesnt look good,
and homing ... that doesnt look good dude but then again we all know your a skilled player whos been playing dp for a while.
best of luck to u buddy
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LoL. I love how homing was getting defensive towards everyones comments as if he WERE guilty of the crime. :)
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It's obvious... Just proceed with the bans.
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Well Spiders, he got so defensive because there is more than enough solid proof to show that he and wanted are in fact blatantly aim botting.
I also like in the demo how during blitz wanteds cursor is directly on 2girls1cup for a good 6 seconds while he was jumping around.
Nicely done boys, way to get caught.
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took long enough... PLOWED!! :P
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this whole thing is a riot.
idk if this has been brought up yet (really didnt want to read 3 more pages of this squabble), but why in the irc conversation did you have to clarify which game you were using the bot on? please tell me this is a "URT exclusive" aimbot....
on a lighter side note, youre stubborn as a mule and i kick ppl when they are down.
ty,
mewa
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took long enough... PLOWED!! :P
Nice first post, lol. 5 pages, has jits seen the thread? Pretty sure he has and they and the committie is deciding.
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tHeY DidNt HacK... ThEy juSt TraInEd BlItz vErY haRdZ LoLOl!z very obivious homing and wanted see ya
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No haX...just skillzorz and preddy naize recon.
/Sarcasm off
Looks very suspicious...
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aimbot.
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Want3d should change his name to Want3d4aimbotting LOLOLOL
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standard ban times should be given. nuff said.
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Clearly the new standard is 1024 days, so I agree with you cola.
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WHAT!>?!?!?! when was this? i thought 1024 was for distributing cheats? sneaky bastards.
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WHAT!>?!?!?! when was this? i thought 1024 was for distributing cheats? sneaky bastards.
but some of people are wanting 1024 4 everything to do with hacks. Like m7 and olbaid.
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but some of people are wanting 1024 4 everything to do with hacks. Like m7 and olbaid.
I know picking up sarcasm can be quite tricky at times, so I am going to let this one slide Cameron.
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rofl. Just watched it for the first time. Well done Va.
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It's too bad clans don't match with friendly fire on.
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It's too bad clans don't match with friendly fire on.
HAHA he would take his whole team out.
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Anything going to be done? It's very evident from the demos. The community seems to side with us, CC.
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Also a number of other little tidbits:
1) you go on a 3 streak against [CC] then lose to .eB-? One with hax on one with hax off maybe? Who knows just throwing out ideas.
Ya GO EB!
They Rule.
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also just to point this out...notice how in [vLt] and in ]vA[ they have the same members...they dont accpect anyone new...idk just throwin this out there
and nahlij left to silence then immediatley after he cameback to ]vA[ they are being accused of aimbots (once they got them...he went back to va is what im trying to say)
and silence is a better clan then va (they have beaten them multiple times and to my knowledge never lost to em)...so what other reason wud nahlij go back
maybe im right...maybe im wrong...im just throwin this out there
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i agree with iced...... :)
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lmao it's obvious, crosshair goes right on his teammate
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also just to point this out...notice how in [vLt] and in ]vA[ they have the same members...they don't accpect anyone new...idk just throwin this out there
and nahlij left to silence then immediatley after he cameback to ]vA[ they are being accused of aimbots (once they got them...he went back to va is what im trying to say)
and silence is a better clan then va (they have beaten them multiple times and to my knowledge never lost to em)...so what other reason wud nahlij go back
maybe im right...maybe im wrong...im just throwin this out there
lol
Are you suggesting we haven't let anyone in cause we are hiding something
And NaHLiJ came back for the aimbot? WOW
Silence has beat us multiple times we only beat them once. We Have Beat [CC] and StaRz when NahLiJ was there and when he left.
He came back from Silence ,from what i know, because they lost a few members and looked as if they was dieing.
We let people in who we think are good enough. It don't mean we hack cause we didn't let you in. Most clans run like that.
I was never in vLt and by vA you trying to say I hack? Interesting.
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lol
Are you suggesting we haven't let anyone in cause we are hiding something
And NaHLiJ came back for the aimbot? WOW
Silence has beat us multiple times we only beat them once. We Have Beat [CC] and StaRz when NahLiJ was there and when he left.
He came back from Silence ,from what i know, because they lost a few members and looked as if they was dieing.
We let people in who we think are good enough. It don't mean we hack cause we didn't let you in. Most clans run like that.
I was never in vLt and by vA you trying to say I hack? Interesting.
I'm done with this matter and waiting on JItspoe Second response.
yep i am suggesting you are hiding something and yes i am suggesting that u hack...everyone knows...
by watching the demo you can clearly tell the crosshair shifts from cc to your team and back to cc...you cannot say anything that will change peoples minds about that, even by u saying that oh he just "spazed out." You cant deny it and there is not getting around it. Good luck getting out of this one.
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???
Not tryna change people minds.
Not tryna get out of it since i was never in it.
I am hiding something, Thats why I didnt let you join. You got me.
ROFL
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the reason why you didnt beat us and could beat cc is the fact we dont let u cap against us lol i enjoyed watching bix's demo of him getting capped on like 3 times.
an aimbot on blitz is so pathetic however.
i am kind of mad jits hasn't said anything except a random joke. but ill assume its because the committee is doing something with it.
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also just to point this out...notice how in [vLt] and in ]vA[ they have the same members...they dont accpect anyone new...idk just throwin this out there
and nahlij left to silence then immediatley after he cameback to ]vA[ they are being accused of aimbots (once they got them...he went back to va is what im trying to say)
and silence is a better clan then va (they have beaten them multiple times and to my knowledge never lost to em)...so what other reason wud nahlij go back
maybe im right...maybe im wrong...im just throwin this out there
Nahlij left [ s ] for a completely different reason, had nothing to do with the skill of the team or vA having aimbots.
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he left cuz me nd reaver are jerks haha. and cuz we have like 3 members. which are all active so it works. idc.
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and nahlij left to silence then immediatley after he cameback to ]vA[ they are being accused of aimbots (once they got them...he went back to va is what im trying to say)
and silence is a better clan then va (they have beaten them multiple times and to my knowledge never lost to em)...so what other reason wud nahlij go back
Nahlij left [ s ] for a completely different reason, had nothing to do with the skill of the team or vA having aimbots.
he left cuz me nd reaver are jerks haha. and cuz we have like 3 members. which are all active so it works. idc.
iced u havent played long enough to know anything, nt, idiot
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how about we lock this and wait for the decision of the committee and/or jitspoe. it's just going off topic.
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how about we lock this and wait for the decision of the committee and/or jitspoe. it's just going off topic.
+1
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how about we lock this and wait for the decision of the committee and/or jitspoe. it's just going off topic.
+1 as well
I kinda left the thread when it went off topic.
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yep i am suggesting you are hiding something and yes i am suggesting that u hack...everyone knows...
I am suggesting you start apologizing to Atmays for the completely frivolous accusations. Last I checked, we didn't incriminate people based on petty association alone. This kind of overly emotional bullexcrement is a perfect way to undermine a legit process.
Although I don't agree with Atmays on his judgement of this topic, I certainly have to hand it to the guy for establishing his character. Despite an overwhelming majority agreeing that the evidence shows hacking, he doesn't see it that way, and has continuously stuck his neck out into this pariah fest to defend it. In a situation where practically all others would make every attempt to hide their opposition, if not simply be lured into the sweet compliance of the majority, he has stood tall and defended what (I believe) he believes is the truth.
So, props to those with solid charactor traits, and __ to those buggard's lacking, attempting to defile with gestures unrecognizable in a just society.
Thank You,
mewa
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i am kind of mad jits hasn't said anything except a random joke. but ill assume its because the committee is doing something with it.
Wasn't entirely a joke, but, yeah, the committee is reviewing the situation.
mewa: While the accusation was unjustified, I think just about anybody with good character would have kicked these players out of the clan or left the clan. Homing bullet admitted to cheating in another game. I wouldn't want to be associated with players that cheat in any game.
And now that your temp ban has probably expired: Homingbullet (and Want3d) -- if you fail to produce demos from your point of view, I will ban you. Wanting to protect your tactics -- especially on a map like blitz -- is a lame excuse. It's a box with transparent bunkers! It only takes the opposing team about 10 seconds to figure out what little tactics are possible on that map. The auto-demos are there for a reason.
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http://loluploads.com/533214
Theres the demo jitspoe.. No wait thats the one with Wade speedhacking.. oops
Jitspoe- the reason why i won't upload my demo is because it is unnecessary to prove our innocence. You know those demos are inconclusive evidence. Ban me if you like, i stand behind my will.
Atmays did not leave the clan because he knows better than anyone hacks are nowhere near us.
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How is it unnecessary to prove your innocence?
Inconclusive my ass.
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http://loluploads.com/533214
Theres the demo jitspoe.. No wait thats the one with Wade speedhacking.. oops
Jitspoe- the reason why i won't upload my demo is because it is unnecessary to prove our innocence. You know those demos are inconclusive evidence. Ban me if you like, i stand behind my will.
Atmays did not leave the clan because he knows better than anyone hacks are nowhere near us.
The first reason you won't upload - you dont wanna give away strategy... When that doesn't work, you change it to "unnecessary" LOL.... any more reason you wanna throw out while you're at it?
And besides, this isn't American Gov't, its not innocent until proven guilty... We have the demo's to show, so its more like guilty, until proven innocent by your demo...
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Homing bullet admitted to cheating in another game. I wouldn't want to be associated with players that cheat in any game.
Exactly.
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what good are your "strategies" and "techniques" if you are banned. just post up the demo and PROVE to everyone that you in fact do not hack. don't know if i speak for myself here or not, but if in the end it is proven that you don't hack i will apologize for this. now prove your innocence and post up your demos or get banned for concealing your strategies.
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Ban me if you like
Sounds like a plan.
Now let's hope the delay on the part of the committee is being caused by a discussion of whether to up the standard ban time.
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http://loluploads.com/533214
Theres the demo jitspoe.. No wait thats the one with Wade speedhacking.. oops
Jitspoe- the reason why i won't upload my demo is because it is unnecessary to prove our innocence. You know those demos are inconclusive evidence. Ban me if you like, i stand behind my will.
Atmays did not leave the clan because he knows better than anyone hacks are nowhere near us.
if u have nothing to hide y dont u post them?
and no one wud take ur "strategy"...and just like cola sed...what good wud ur "strategy" be if you are banned?
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They're unnecessary to prove your innocence, or they better prove your guilt? And why have you been running around with the name "aimb0t"? Not really helping your case any. In any case, I've made in necessary if you want a chance to not be banned. I'm actually tempted to give you a 64 day ban if you refuse to produce the demo vs. a 32 day ban if you produce a demo but it still looks convincing that you're using cheats. It seems like you're trying hard to hide something.
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aimb0t was a joke buddy.. and why are u all so persistant in attempting to get my demo.. u have the demos of those suspected we hack.. base your decision off that. Is that so difficult?
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it's way more than obvious you're guilty, so stop beating around the bush and trying to avoid giving up your demos. Not to mention the fact that you both registered the names aimb0t, and a1mbot and have been pubbing religiously under those names. The demos are automatically recorded for a reason, as stated previously, and you refusing to show us yours pretty much just reinstates the fact that you are hiding something? But what exactly are you hiding, that we can't see in the other demos? Is it something in mm2 that you don't want us reading? Or is it just more mombot head-snapping.. regardless you know you're caught, and just digging yourself further into a hole. Have a pleasant day.
P.S -- i hope you actually don't give up your demos so you can get banned longer than expected. 8)
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This is pathetic and getting out of hand. I vote for a year ban. :D
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Jits, if you wouldn't even be in a clan with known cheaters why do you keep putting them back in the game for all of us to play against?
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12619.msg126193#new
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Wasn't entirely a joke, but, yeah, the committee is reviewing the situation.
While the accusation was unjustified, I think just about anybody with good character would have kicked these players out of the clan or left the clan. Homing bullet admitted to cheating in another game. I wouldn't want to be associated with players that cheat in any game.
Say what you want. I think friendship with these dudes is greater than this situation quilty or not. I been cool with them since i started playing. Im not jus gone say intercourse them cause of this.
So say waht you want, If they get banned I would still be cool with them and play with them. Keep ]vA[ goin with them. Unless they tell me they not coming back. Until then we a team and im not kicking or jus leaving.
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too bad the committee doesn't have the power to delete posts. maybe you should talk it out with the MODERATOR that deleted your post.
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sad the committee is over abusing their power deleting my post... its gotten so bad here you cant even state your opinion without it getting deleted no wonder everyone is quiting this game
No-one is quiting this game. The committee can't delete posts either. Your post was probably useless.
Say what you want. I think friendship with these dudes is greater than this situation quilty or not. I been cool with them since i started playing. Im not jus gone say intercourse them cause of this.
So say waht you want, If they get banned I would still be cool with them and play with them. Keep ]vA[ goin with them. Unless they tell me they not coming back. Until then we a team and im not kicking or jus leaving.
Touching. Make a music about that.
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yea i hurt jitspoes feeling and btw r any of uguys committee to know that
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we don't have to be on the committee to know what has already been announced. better luck next time.
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No-one is quiting this game. The committee can't delete posts either. Your post was probably useless.
Touching. Make a music about that.
WTF are you stating.
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sad the committee is over abusing their power deleting my post... its gotten so bad here you cant even state your opinion without it getting deleted no wonder everyone is quiting this game
You sure they deleted it? Or is this it over here?
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12619.msg126250#msg126250
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iced we never let u in va is because (no offense) you suck also we didnt git new members is because we just started and if you say that i hack your a darn liar.. just to point some stuff out and also we got same members is because we get along and good friends we don't have something up our rear end
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iced we never let u in va is because (no offense) you suck also we didnt git new members is because we just started and if you say that i hack your a darn liar.. just to point some stuff out and also we got same members is because we get along and good friends we don't have something up our rear end
They gone beleive waht they wanna believe.
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You sure they deleted it? Or is this it over here?
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12619.msg126250#msg126250
why are you pasting that thread? has nothing to do with his post getting deleted.
They gone beleive waht they wanna believe.
we gone beleive waht we have evidence of. clearly you haven't seen actual "footage" of an aimbot being used, or you're in denial and don't want to believe what's in front of your face. either way the evidence is in those demos and we don't need the demos of want3d or homing to further prove this. they'll get what's coming. just be glad you had no part in their act. you walk away free and clear. g/l to you.
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why are you pasting that thread? has nothing to do with his post getting deleted.
Because I don't think his post was ever deleted. I think he posted it over there by mistake, and thought he had posted here.
I may well be wrong. But he can confirm or deny if he likes.
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Well, I've given them enough time to share their demos, and they have not, so it's a 64 day ban.
HomingBullet: 76.105.23.71 = c-76-105-23-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
slverbullet/want3d: 71.193.30.97 = c-71-193-30-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
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btw homings pc is down no way he could of posted them. and also i think u have insufficient proof to ban hmoing
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insufficient proof??
you can clearly see in the demos that they r cycling thru players...no doubt about it
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Because snapshot aiming as seen in the demo totally isn't proof *rolls his eyes*
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clanmates will defend clanmates. leave it be, or better yet, let them complain more, that's funnier.
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Wonder if they will show their demos once they are busting to play...
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Well, I've given them enough time to share their demos, and they have not, so it's a 64 day ban.
HomingBullet: 76.105.23.71 = c-76-105-23-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
slverbullet/want3d: 71.193.30.97 = c-71-193-30-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
NOt fair bro. 64 days all cause they didnt show they demos.
Even though standard is 32, they get 64 on first offense for not showing demos.
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I'm actually tempted to give you a 64 day ban if you refuse to produce the demo
Seemed a clear enough warning. They have no one to blame but themselves.
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They're unnecessary to prove your innocence, or they better prove your guilt? And why have you been running around with the name "aimb0t"? Not really helping your case any. In any case, I've made in necessary if you want a chance to not be banned. I'm actually tempted to give you a 64 day ban if you refuse to produce the demo vs. a 32 day ban if you produce a demo but it still looks convincing that you're using cheats. It seems like you're trying hard to hide something.
hmmm....im not sure how that could be any clearer
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AIM BOTS DONT WORK IN THIS GAME
Or do they?
JITSPOE ?
I would hate to be lied to.
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Give it up loial, this is a new bot from a different game. Not the lame old Q2 bots that we're used to seeing people try to aimbot with. This one appears to be rather effective, with a little more modification.
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Will this Aimbot ever be detectable ?
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Hopefully...
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i dont deny the fact that i got an aimbot which I'm practicing in urban terror called mombot
Give it up loial, this is a new bot from a different game. Not the lame old Q2 bots that we're used to seeing people try to aimbot with. This one appears to be rather effective, with a little more modification.
Maybe he used the mombot for DP
EDIT: I think many dp players (most europeans) are using this aimbot too , i hope jits will detect it soon
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Just wondering when it became mandatory to produce a demo of yourself. Look I just got back into the game. Well this is the first time I have ever seen a player banned because they didnt post up their demos. Seems like lame evidence too in the first place. Which it must be lame for you to ask the charged to produce evidence against themselves. Whether he cheated or not in another game is none of DP2's admin or committee's business. Thats urban terrors problem not DP's. It seems like lately with this committe bs, bans have been became really inconsistent. One guy gets 32 and the other one gets 1024 day ban for the same offence. Then here we have two guys that get banned finally after a 6+ page forum topic is debated through. Something just really seems off. If there hacking fine, ban them. Dont beg them too produce evidence of them cheating just so you can be sure. If you ask me, if your having to ask the charged to produce your evidence then you may want to reconsider the evidence you have as inconclusive. This is the first time Ive even seen a ban thread go to the 5th page before the player is actually banned. Jits, no offense to you and really appreciate everything you do. Though if this cheat is undetectable and the only way to prove guilt is by debating demo's on the forum, mind you that these demo's have none of the obvious or definite proof of cheating (such as different colored models and whatever hacks have in them) other than the aim "snapping to players", you may want to work on the detection method before trying to ban people.
To sum it up...
1. No definite proof other than "OMG HAX SNAPPING AIM"
2. Banning across the community has became really inconsistent.
3. Player only gets banned after 5 pages of debating, and not producing further evidence for review, whats wrong with the original evidence.
Just a few things seem "off", if you ask me.
Edit: I have just got back into the game 2 days ago, as previously stated. I am in the same clan as these guys. Though the only two from my clan, I have played with are vlad and atmays. So I really have no feeling one way or the other about the bannings just because they are my "clanmates". I'm more concerned with the way bannings are being handled. Its very sloppy if you ask me. I have played other FPS, and well the evidence is always sharp and to the point. The bannings were always swift and permanent none of this playaround 32, 64,... 1024 day bs. Just bang your caught, please stay out and have a nice life.
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wb Shooter
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Just wondering when it became mandatory to produce a demo of yourself. Look I just got back into the game. Well this is the first time I have ever seen a player banned because they didnt post up their demos. Seems like lame evidence too in the first place. Which it must be lame for you to ask the charged to produce evidence against themselves. Whether he cheated or not in another game is none of DP2's admin or committee's business. Thats urban terrors problem not DP's. It seems like lately with this committe bs, bans have been became really inconsistent. One guy gets 32 and the other one gets 1024 day ban for the same offence. Then here we have two guys that get banned finally after a 6+ page forum topic is debated through. Something just really seems off. If there hacking fine, ban them. Dont beg them too produce evidence of them cheating just so you can be sure. If you ask me, if your having to ask the charged to produce your evidence then you may want to reconsider the evidence you have as inconclusive. This is the first time Ive even seen a ban thread go to the 5th page before the player is actually banned. Jits, no offense to you and really appreciate everything you do. Though if this cheat is undetectable and the only way to prove guilt is by debating demo's on the forum, mind you that these demo's have none of the obvious or definite proof of cheating (such as different colored models and whatever hacks have in them) other than the aim "snapping to players", you may want to work on the detection method before trying to ban people.
To sum it up...
1. No definite proof other than "OMG HAX SNAPPING AIM"
2. Banning across the community has became really inconsistent.
3. Player only gets banned after 5 pages of debating, and not producing further evidence for review, whats wrong with the original evidence.
Just a few things seem "off", if you ask me.
Edit: I have just got back into the game 2 days ago, as previously stated. I am in the same clan as these guys. Though the only two from my clan, I have played with are vlad and atmays. So I really have no feeling one way or the other about the bannings just because they are my "clanmates". I'm more concerned with the way bannings are being handled. Its very sloppy if you ask me. I have played other FPS, and well the evidence is always sharp and to the point. The bannings were always swift and permanent none of this playaround 32, 64,... 1024 day bs. Just bang your caught, please stay out and have a nice life.
You should have told us you were in there clan at the beginning. Then I would not have read this.
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$hooter you've been gone too long. ALL bans now that aren't automatic are slow and take a 10 page debate because the committee isn't exactly lightning fast. It's always slow, even if the evidence is just that obvious.
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why dont you post your demos? at this point all it can do is help.
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Homing comp down, and I aint been on to see where bullet is.
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Just wondering when it became mandatory to produce a demo of yourself. Look I just got back into the game. Well this is the first time I have ever seen a player banned because they didnt post up their demos. Seems like lame evidence too in the first place. Which it must be lame for you to ask the charged to produce evidence against themselves. Whether he cheated or not in another game is none of DP2's admin or committee's business. Thats urban terrors problem not DP's. It seems like lately with this committe bs, bans have been became really inconsistent. One guy gets 32 and the other one gets 1024 day ban for the same offence. Then here we have two guys that get banned finally after a 6+ page forum topic is debated through. Something just really seems off. If there hacking fine, ban them. Dont beg them too produce evidence of them cheating just so you can be sure. If you ask me, if your having to ask the charged to produce your evidence then you may want to reconsider the evidence you have as inconclusive. This is the first time Ive even seen a ban thread go to the 5th page before the player is actually banned. Jits, no offense to you and really appreciate everything you do. Though if this cheat is undetectable and the only way to prove guilt is by debating demo's on the forum, mind you that these demo's have none of the obvious or definite proof of cheating (such as different colored models and whatever hacks have in them) other than the aim "snapping to players", you may want to work on the detection method before trying to ban people.
To sum it up...
1. No definite proof other than "OMG HAX SNAPPING AIM"
2. Banning across the community has became really inconsistent.
3. Player only gets banned after 5 pages of debating, and not producing further evidence for review, whats wrong with the original evidence.
Just a few things seem "off", if you ask me.
Edit: I have just got back into the game 2 days ago, as previously stated. I am in the same clan as these guys. Though the only two from my clan, I have played with are vlad and atmays. So I really have no feeling one way or the other about the bannings just because they are my "clanmates". I'm more concerned with the way bannings are being handled. Its very sloppy if you ask me. I have played other FPS, and well the evidence is always sharp and to the point. The bannings were always swift and permanent none of this playaround 32, 64,... 1024 day bs. Just bang your caught, please stay out and have a nice life.
did you actually take the time to read every post and understand? have you ever seen an aimbot being used? if you would have read the thread you would have known that with or without their demos they were going to be banned. obviously the original demos that were posted were enough to prove them guilty of the offense in question. now they had a choice to either post their demos and receive a 32 day ban(since it was their firs offense) or continue to refuse to post them and receive a 64 day ban. clearly we can see which route they decided to take. it's no one fault but their own, since no one forced them to use this hack.
seems like the bans have been pretty consistent to me. but as we all know, it takes the committee 5+ days to come to a decision on a ban time. i guess there is no harm in that. it seems as though they are actually taking their time before they whip out the sentence.
i hope there is some way to detect this to keep more people from using it.
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if you would have read the thread you would have known that with or without their demos they were going to be banned. obviously the original demos that were posted were enough to prove them guilty of the offense in question.
Sorry I dont really know about hacks. Im just saying that its pathetic it takes 5 pages and days to complete a ban. Bans should be handed down quickly and not lollygagging around asking for demos. They should have been banned the day the demos are posted and reviewed. This is just hmm how can I put this nicely.... Well I guess I cant... pathetic. The commitee obviously needs to be reviewed or atleast its processing of matters.
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Sorry I dont really know about hacks. Im just saying that its pathetic it takes 5 pages and days to complete a ban. Bans should be handed down quickly and not lollygagging around asking for demos. They should have been banned the day the demos are posted and reviewed. This is just hmm how can I put this nicely.... Well I guess I cant... pathetic. The commitee obviously needs to be reviewed or atleast its processing of matters.
-The committee takes time to think things out. They're also all not sitting at their computers 24/7. What is the problem in that?
-There was no debate about whether or not they were cheating. The demo's posted by CC were darning enough. The only rebuttals came from members of vA. Only they thought it was insufficient.
-Demo's were asked for as they are for most that don't have a detectable hack. Their refusal to post them made everyone more suspicious and drew interest in what they are hiding.
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If the demos are good enough to be considered definitive proof of hacking. Then why sit around and have some over the top discussion about it and demand a player incriminate themselves? Why not just put the ban in effect and let them come back when they serve it. Though I totally disagree with the coming back part.
Im not defending nor supporting these two. Im just questioning the process. Seems sloppy...
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A: homing's computer is down for a while no way he could have posted demo while hes moving... B. homing snapping to teamates i looked at demos didn't c him moving mouse more then an inch from player 2 player. c: u condemn 1 of the players and instantly have to condemn the 2nd because he was with him. also iced it pathetic when the only the u talk crap is in forums.. like your opinion counts grow up first get a little wiser then talk. its like Ur 12 year old bro biting at your ankles its annoying as hell. and the only reason this thread went so long is because the evidence is doubtful and the 64 day ban is not jube quietll because homing didn't have an opportunity.
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ok so besides homing...y didnt want3d post his? explain that one pal.
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he hasnt been on 4 a while that i dont know and the only reason there is a ban is because they didnt provide demos..... kinda sad
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I matched with Bullet and Homing a lot (over 200 matches); so I know how they used to play.
Bullet tends to line either above or near the person, and the person generally tends to run into his line. It is not usually a direct hit, as in he usually never aimed at the guy, he usually aimed near the guy. This being said, it's pretty easy to dodge his lines once you know what he does and where he aims.
Having watched Bix's demo, the first minute or so on Blitz was normal, but after that... it gets fishy. The constant twitching, and bullet actually aiming on his target is unusual for him. Not to mention his split-second reaction speed... I've never seen that from him.
They were clean when they were in UnderRated. Our entire clan was. But since VA started, I can no longer say who is using what. I'm making no accusations, however, that is not the same Bullet I used to match with.
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i didnt feel like really reading 9 pages about this but if its about him using a old q3 hack for q2 u guys r pretty retarded. ive seen the demos ive seen some fishy and some not so fishy plays in all demos post on the 1st page but u have to think if some r fishy and some arent it could be luck. btw i see how at 1 part of the match he has fast reactions then slow reactions have u guys ever though tim when he had fast he was focusing on the match and trying his best then something happened around him or he did something where he lost focus started to suck then regained focus again
this happens to me when im playing other games
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correction* on previous post meant 2 say its not just
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Whats the point in him providing demos. I dont get this part at all. I mean if the ones that are on this thread are conclusive then there is no reason for someone to post demos of themselves. Isnt this like asking the guy that killed someone for them to admit to. I mean obviously hes going to tell you no? I mean what is too stop homing or bullet from sending false demos of themselves with the hacks off. This whole committee thing is working out like a charm.
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like i said in the other thread, jitspoe asked from their demos to add their side of the story to all of this. if they were innocent they would have no problem releasing the demos to prove their innocence. it's not like he forced them to show the demos. who cares if he asked for them? he wanted to give them the chance to explain their side. they were already going to be banned for 32 days with or without the demos. but since they were denying it, and didn't post their demos to prove them innocent, the ban time was doubled(atleast this is how i see it).
do you know how demos even work? obviously not. someone more experienced can chime in here, since i don't know how to explain how they actually work. but i do know the concept behind them. demos play off what you have in your paintball directory. there is no way they can send the same demo(map, players, etc...) "with hacks off". we would be able to see the twitching from their view(first person).
i was against the committee from the beginning. but now i can see where it's actually helping. i honestly have very few complaints at the moment.
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Yes I understand how demos work. Basically records everything from that players pov. Anyways, There shouldnt been a please submit your other demos, for further investigation. It shouldve been you have definitive proof in this demo posted and 32 day ban. Let them serve it and hopefully they learn. When it comes to hacking the demo should from any person pov should tell the whole story and not just one persons. In your second paragraph you state they cant send a demo "with hacks off". Are you saying that because it wasnt theirs that its not absolutely positive that they was hacking. Because it the hacks wouldnt be showing on the third party recording the demo. Ill be honest I think with an undetectable hack that "snap aiming" from a third party is lousy evidence. Though Im not on this all knowing committee so whatever. Though if the committee deems a person hacking definitively then they need to slap the ban stick on them. Not have some long drawn out bs party about it. I think congress could work thru this quicker and well thats just sad.
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i don't get what you are saying about the "with hacks off" demo thing. the demos posted are from the 3rd person(CC). if they would have posted their demos it would have shown the twitching in 1st person. the demos posted were enough proof to have them banned. this isn't the only thread that has gone on like this. there are a few out there. they were given the chance to plead their case, they refused and were punished accordingly.
what you don't seem to get is that the committee takes the time to review each side of the case. we are unlike other games in the way we handle situations, as you can see. what's the difference between a ban the same day or a ban after a 5 page topic a week later? seems like the offenders have that extra time to get their affects in order before they are strucken with the almighty ban stick. either way they get banned. why worry about how long it takes?
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What ive heard is that Homing hasnt been able to reach the internet, therefor not being able to post his demo. Isnt that a lil unfair? Also i agree with $hooter[I think]
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Yes I understand how demos work. Basically records everything from that players pov. Anyways, There shouldnt been a please submit your other demos, for further investigation. It shouldve been you have definitive proof in this demo posted and 32 day ban. Let them serve it and hopefully they learn. When it comes to hacking the demo should from any person pov should tell the whole story and not just one persons. In your second paragraph you state they cant send a demo "with hacks off". Are you saying that because it wasnt theirs that its not absolutely positive that they was hacking. Because it the hacks wouldnt be showing on the third party recording the demo. Ill be honest I think with an undetectable hack that "snap aiming" from a third party is lousy evidence. Though Im not on this all knowing committee so whatever. Though if the committee deems a person hacking definitively then they need to slap the ban stick on them. Not have some long drawn out bs party about it. I think congress could work thru this quicker and well thats just sad.
They were asked to submit their demos from that match with CC, since that is where the accused hacking took place. So if they were hacking, it would show through.
Also, it WOULD show on the third party demo - the aim of the player is sent to the server, so whatever is happening with their aim on their PC is visible on the server and therefore on somebody elses demo of them.
Now learn.
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Have they given them the demo? Cos if they're saying that they didnt do anything wrong, then why not submit it?!? If they did then what are we arguing, ban them!
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They are already banned
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I don't see why ya'll complain that his computer is not working.... Homing had a lot of time before to give his demo... He even had the time to post a stupid upload of W4de, so don't complain that he can't know, cuz he could have before, and never did...
Even so with his teammates complaining of innocence, I don't see them posting their demos, since they could have spec'd the whole round...
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I don't see why ya'll complain that his computer is not working.... Homing had a lot of time before to give his demo... He even had the time to post a stupid upload of W4de, so don't complain that he can't know, cuz he could have before, and never did...
Even so with his teammates complaining of innocence, I don't see them posting their demos, since they could have spec'd the whole round...
Quite true.
Jits asked for the demos on the 20th at a bit after 11:00 AM.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126133#msg126133
Homing posted an excuse at 2:00 PM
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126164#msg126164
At 3:36 he complains again and gives no indication he is providing the demo.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126184#msg126184
On the 21st at 1 AM he had time to upload a demo of Wade.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12628.msg126289#msg126289
And Jits decided to ban them for not producing the demos on the 21st at 9:30 in the evening.
So from 2:00 when he first posted about Jit's statement, until at least 1:00 AM the next day Homing had 11 hours to reflect on his situation and post a demo if he wished.
Homing twice said he was not giving the demo after Jits' statement. He had opportunity, but not the inclination.
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don't forget the thread he started trying to get wade banned.
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don't forget the thread he started trying to get wade banned.
That was the one at 1 AM. Or was there an additional one in another section?
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I left right before the committee was formed. I remember before bans were handled swiftly and promptly. Now I have came back to the game. Now it takes, 5 page threads, 100 demo reviews and pleading with the guilty to give up demos. If you already have definitive proof nothing else is needed, hand out the ban and quit bsing around.
quote from cola:
seems like the offenders have that extra time to get their affects in order before they are strucken with the
almighty ban stick.
The guilty do not deserve this pleasure of extra time. Just toss em.
Quite true.
Jits asked for the demos on the 20th at a bit after 11:00 AM.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126133#msg126133
Homing posted an excuse at 2:00 PM
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126164#msg126164
At 3:36 he complains again and gives no indication he is providing the demo.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12544.msg126184#msg126184
On the 21st at 1 AM he had time to upload a demo of Wade.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=12628.msg126289#msg126289
And Jits decided to ban them for not producing the demos on the 21st at 9:30 in the evening.
So from 2:00 when he first posted about Jit's statement, until at least 1:00 AM the next day Homing had 11 hours to reflect on his situation and post a demo if he wished.
Homing twice said he was not giving the demo after Jits' statement. He had opportunity, but not the inclination.
If things were right we wouldnt needed all this bs.
Though I really love the fact that the guilty is supposed to incriminate themselves. Funny how I thought the US gov't system was freaked up just because it takes forever for anything to get done. On here we ask the charged to provide evidence against themselves and still take forever.
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Now it takes, 5 page threads, 100 demo reviews and pleading with the guilty to give up demos.
From what I can tell, the decision was being made whether there were 5 page threads or not. I guess if they would have given up their "incriminating" demos it would have been like a confession and their ban time would have been half. If the demos were not incriminating, then I don't see what the problem with giving them up would be. It could only help them. I guess what I am getting at is it sounds like they were given an opportunity to confess to shorten their ban time. Just like the court system, if you plead guilty, you get a lesser sentence. Just my point of view.
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They wasnt asking for a confession, it was for further review. Which I dont get because well if the ones on here are definitive proof then there is no need for further review is there.
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Though I really love the fact that the guilty is supposed to incriminate themselves.
They're not. When jits and the commitee investigate a cheater report, they don't go in as a prosecutor. They go in like the Jury. Therefore, they wern't asking for evidence against them, even if it was against, they were asking for evidence that could be for or against. They don't know if his demos are incriminating or not. Therefore, they were asking for evidence to defend the person, but at the same time asking him to incriminate himself (if the evidence was against him). He cornered himslef into this.
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i don't even know what to say anymore. shooter, you clearly are not comprehending anything you are reading. the facts are out there. the explanation as to why the demos were asked for is out there. the explanation as to why the committee takes so long to pass judgment is out there. read, re-read and read again. understand what you are reading. take some time to think about it, then come back and post.
forget what you have learned in your 6 years of gaming. jitspoe has his own way of dealing with all of this drama. clearly alot of people aren't happy, but it's working and has been working for quite some time now.
in the end they both got banned for using the hack. sure if it wasn't for the keen eye of olbaid himself, they probably would not have been caught. 1 day or 5 days, 1 page or 10 pages, the hackers get what they deserve. why worry about how long it takes to do it?
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Lock and forget.
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They shouldnt be banned jits plz help they are my friends they accidentally erased their demo plz no ban
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They shouldnt be banned jits plz help they are my friends they accidentally erased their demo plz no ban
I hope your joking. Can't you see it from the demos? They are clearly using some kind of an aimbot.
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Jesus Christ
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I'm comprehending fine. You guys like to drag your feet on making judgments. Look demos are an exact replica of what happens in the game. The proof is there, there is no reason for dragging it out. I just come from games where something is posted that proves a hack is in use, and they are banned promptly. This process is full of bs. Im just asking that they take the bs out of it. I dont know it just seems to work, and keeps the integrity of the game. Im really starting to think this community likes drama.
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cause we got a bunch of homo's that love drama playing dp shooter
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Jitspoe, please make me a forum moderator.
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jitspoe i would love to post my demo of blitz so i can have a 32 day ban. I don't understand why my ban is 64 days... i really dont have the demos, also its a first time offense why do we get 64 days??? jitspoe please let me know cause i dont think the ban is fair... :(
EDIT: jitspoe u also mentioned about creating a system where we can pay our ban off. Is there something like that set up yet? I love this game to much and don't think we deserve the 64 day ban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jitspoe i would love to post my demo of blitz so i can have a 32 day ban. I don't understand why my ban is 64 days... i really dont have the demos, also its a first time offense why do we get 64 days??? jitspoe please let me know cause i dont think the ban is fair... :(
EDIT: jitspoe u also mentioned about creating a system where we can pay our ban off. Is there something like that set up yet? I love this game to much and don't think we deserve the 64 day ban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You expect fair treatment for unfair behavior?
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EDIT: jitspoe u also mentioned about creating a system where we can pay our ban off. Is there something like that set up yet?
That option never worked out so it's no longer in effect.
I love this game to much and don't think we deserve the 64 day ban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are now paying the price for your actions. If you wanted a lesser ban you should have handed over your demo in the first place.
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Lmao, this is quite humorous.
First you refuse to hand over the demo, now you want to. ahaha
Go on, I'm entertained.
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You expect fair treatment for unfair behavior?
I would expect fair treatment for anyone. This also the first time I have seen someone get their banned doubled for not posting demos.
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lol no idea who either of these people are but seriously..... jit double the 64 day ban, for excrements and giggles etc :D a hola
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Why are you kids still posting idiotic remarks.. nobody cares.. besides the committee and jitspoe none of your suggestions/ comments/ remarks matter. Go practice.. Most of you kids just camp the forums and never, or hardly ever play dp, put that time into dp and you might be decent.
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$hooter - #1. Welcome back, I'm looking forward to some enjoyable pubbin with you.
#2. I say this with all due affection, you're missing the picture. I liken it to one of those darn math story problems, once in awhile you'll just read it silly (hi-grade doja doesn't help) and no matter how many time you reread it you can't figure it out. But then the next day in class, teach goes over the problem and suddenly you get it and feel like a jackass. A little perspective is what the doctor orders. Avoid the kneejerk reaction to post and consider the following;
- A punishment too swift is unjust and lacks due process.
- This case is not like that of a pesky nob speed hacker where the evidence is near black and white. From the CC demos the "higher ups" appear to have concluded that they were most likely hacking, but there is room for error. It would be incredibly wrong and unjust to not allow them a chance to defend. Their demos, with the first person view, would provide for the clearest interpretation of the situation.
- The length of this forum post doesn't carry any weight when it comes to conviction or punishment. This is the hens in the hen house gabbing it up, consider it to be the media at an overblown trial. The amount of posting and interest in this case is testament to the popularity of the characters involved.
Lastly, the I believe they received the 64 day ban because of the "you've played long enough and should have known better" clause, which has a well established precedence. If you can be considered a well defined member of the community, than you are subject to a greater punishment due to the greater impact your crime has on the community. I support this notion.
Enjoy,
mewa
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They got what was deserved. Its over; their banned. We don't need to go on and on about this. It's over.
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I always took you for an idiot, mewa, but that pretty much sums up what happened in simplistic terms. Very nice job capturing that in just a few minuscule paragraphs.
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New ban for modified content. For what it's worth, it is NOT ok to rename existing textures to, say, change the colored barrels into a neutral brick. Looks like he might have been using modifeid maps as well.
Names used:
-uR-Homingbullet
-uR-Slimshady
-uR-Hom0bullet
homingbullet
-uR-Homi3
suka
IP's:
71.143.0.28 = adsl-71-143-0-28.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.252.79 = adsl-71-142-252-79.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.211.168 = adsl-71-142-211-168.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.143.5.120 = adsl-71-143-5-120.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.238.250 = adsl-71-142-238-250.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.238.193 = adsl-71-142-238-193.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.248.151 = adsl-71-142-248-151.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.143.0.151 = adsl-71-143-0-151.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.209.240 = adsl-71-142-209-240.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
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the reason dp is so dead is due to kids in the committee . committee making judgements due on thier own love for a player. and also due to the stupidity of jitspoe for listening to these kids.
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Stop harshing me bro.
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now let me hand over this website ip to a hacking site. brute force preferred!!!
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olbaid u h8 homie. we all know that. harrassing is 1 thing the truth is another.
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hahahahhahaha caught again
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New ban for modified content. For what it's worth, it is NOT ok to rename existing textures to, say, change the colored barrels into a neutral brick. Looks like he might have been using modifeid maps as well. - jitspoe are u serious? and 125 days? wow and how the intercourse do u modify maps that is posibly and if u modify a map what is the advantage of doing that???? and the barrel texture where i had brick that was only when i tried it out i didnt even play in a pub i had ss of random maps with textures i was messing around with they are the original hr4s. u guys think i didnt no it wasnt legal?? if i used it in matches okay that would b diff. but.......? and why is the ban so long? this is stupid get banned for nothing olbaid i know u had something to do with this ban. Real pathetic u cant handle me being better than u so u go and find ways to get rid of me just cause u dont like me while clans that really hack dont get banned cause they got u in the committee to back your intercoursein ass.
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Real pathetic u cant handle me being better than u so u go and find ways to get rid of me just cause u dont like me while clans that really hack dont get banned cause they got u in the committee to back your intercoursein ass.
Not sure if im allowed to say this, but i voted 0 days. I WIN!
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someone lock this thread, issue clearly resolved.
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New ban for modified content. For what it's worth, it is NOT ok to rename existing textures to, say, change the colored barrels into a neutral brick. Looks like he might have been using modifeid maps as well. - jitspoe are u serious? and 125 days? wow and how the intercourse do u modify maps that is posibly and if u modify a map what is the advantage of doing that???? and the barrel texture where i had brick that was only when i tried it out i didnt even play in a pub i had ss of random maps with textures i was messing around with they are the original hr4s. u guys think i didnt no it wasnt legal?? if i used it in matches okay that would b diff. but.......? and why is the ban so long? this is stupid get banned for nothing olbaid i know u had something to do with this ban. Real pathetic u cant handle me being better than u so u go and find ways to get rid of me just cause u dont like me while clans that really hack dont get banned cause they got u in the committee to back your intercoursein ass.
Yes, olbaid doesn't really love all the kids and protects them. See you in 125 days.
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HomingBullet:Hahaha navyseal its sad that u even asked for hax - its pathtic obviously u still have the hax lol. Cant wait until all the hacks become detectable lol. your decent and dp right now after - you will be bad like you used to be lol stupid ass kids need hacks to be good now.
Quote O' the year
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whats really sad is this ban is for nothing. simply for being a decent player. caught again? cliipz? caught at what being good?
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well ride as u can see im not banned for hacking im banned for having a wall texture on a barrel
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128 days? GTFU
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New ban for modified content. For what it's worth, it is NOT ok to rename existing textures to, say, change the colored barrels into a neutral brick. Looks like he might have been using modifeid maps as well.
Names used:
-uR-Homingbullet
-uR-Slimshady
-uR-Hom0bullet
homingbullet
-uR-Homi3
suka
IP's:
71.143.0.28 = adsl-71-143-0-28.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.252.79 = adsl-71-142-252-79.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.211.168 = adsl-71-142-211-168.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.143.5.120 = adsl-71-143-5-120.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.238.250 = adsl-71-142-238-250.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.238.193 = adsl-71-142-238-193.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.248.151 = adsl-71-142-248-151.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.143.0.151 = adsl-71-143-0-151.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
71.142.209.240 = adsl-71-142-209-240.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
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whats really sad is this ban is for nothing. simply for being a decent player. caught again? cliipz? caught at what being good?
If you got banned for being a decent player...i wonder how long my ban is going to be for being an amazing player.
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As much as I love to give homing a hard time, Do you have proof he used them in matches or just took a picture?
What ever happened innocent until PROVEN guilty?
I guess times have changed.
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guys this is the reason for my ban look at the barrels by flag one they are brick. the sad part is i never used them in a pub and i got a ban. why?
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9610/sshot128xj8.jpg
and they have no proof i used them... because i never did. this is really pathetic. never used in a pub.
EDIT: they asked me for every barrel texture i had i gave them every1 but for some reason they still banned me. i never used this brick in no match or pub server
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I'm going to have to say my pforest looks NOTHING like that. Why is it so bright and odd coloured?
No point in arguing it homing, I don't think I've seen a ban reversed and I doubt there going to reverse a ban for a re-offender
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i got banned for nothing!!!!! there should be a ban reverse i didnt do anything wrong... and there are players on dp who say my textures r real ugly... u prob dont have hr4 thats why yours dont look same.
done with dp.
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because emo get some hr4's and it will improve if ur gpu can handle it.
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For One homing is using my hr4 pack which Ive been planning to release when its 100 percent done he has a early beta and merely exploited it by renaming some textures so they end up like that. The ban shouldn't be taken away completely cause he did get caught using a aimbot but as for modified textures that should be reversed cause they r so many People , so many hr4's packs released unofficially and officially within DP and the main cause of that would be theirs no standard hr4 pack for DP. Yes, jitspoe is working on this but until it happens u cant really call them modified i would say their mainly exploited cause my hr4 pack nearly doesn't look like that on pbcup_pforest if any committee member wants these textures to see what I'm taking about pm me on these forums,irc , xfire or even in game ill gladly upload and link them to u but this ban should be lowered 128 days is by far too absurd for what has been done i think
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koas this ban is simply because of the textures no aimbot... aimbot was from way long ago from first ban. for this ban its textures only.
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bah w.e anyways i let u use my pack then u exploit them not my fault u did that bro ...
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then u exploit them
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anyone that thinks those 2 barrels make as big as difference in the game as a 128 day ban needs to be slapped. in reality it makes no difference. you can go back to the old textures and u will still play the same. since some of us can afford better pc's, we like higher res textures. sue us. half the time u know where the person is just by looking at his spray. and for a minor issue i would say a minor ban no more then 2 weeks. at least try to keep dp on its feet.
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anyone that thinks those 2 barrels make as big as difference in the game as a 128 day ban needs to be slapped. in reality it makes no difference. you can go back to the old textures and u will still play the same. since some of us can afford better pc's, we like higher res textures. sue us. half the time u know where the person is just by looking at his spray. and for a minor issue i would say a minor ban no more then 2 weeks. at least try to keep dp on its feet.
It's ok to use Hi-res textures.
Just it's not ok to rename those textures and change them all around, making it easier to see.
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Can I change them around then if it makes it harder to see? Your argument doesn't hold up considering all of the highres textures use different sources for their images which may or may not make it easier to see. You may be using a highres image of a brown rock while i use a grey one. Would I be banned for using textures that had no red and instead a different color if I was color blind? Some people can not see the color red and that sets them at a huge disadvantage on most maps. Jits you should try to make the game more accessible to people. You all need to focus on the real offenders instead of trying to ban as many people from the game as you can for silly little reasons that barely fit into your obscure rules. If you seriously think that you are going to lose a match cause some guy has brown barrels you need to practice more or stop playing. I doubt this has to do with the actual game as much as some hostility between the players though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Also, barrels are normally brown anyways and some people like to go for that realistic look.
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I think jitspoe needs to make the game scan the date and filesizes on the hr4's on the next build. This way there will be no more problems or exploiting... simple as that. Also there's no reason to come up with excuses for doing this because it stems from the greyscaling/whiting out textures that ppl were getting banned for a couple years ago. Only reason people decided to just move around the hr4's was because they knew it was undetectable... go figure. One person finds out about it and spreads it and next thing you know half the community is doing it.
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I need to agree with bigt, and really...125 days for a brick barrel?
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I need to agree with bigt, and really...125 days for a brick barrel?
The way the bans work is that it starts at something like 30 days i think, and then doubles everytime he gets banned. so it's like 30 days --> 60 days --> 126 days. He's been banned before
Oh and the reason why you're not allowed to modify the textures is because on maps like the one shown, you could rename all textures to the same ones so whenever you saw anything that wasnt brick, you knew to shoot at it.
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lol that would be so stupid to have a barrel texture for everything that would be so ugly also - my first ban was 32 days i dont get it why the second one is so big??? as to knowing that this was illegal i was told its legal so i had no idea that doing that was wrong...
but the fact that i never used them is what i dont understand. im banned just for checking the textures out
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I like the walls in homings screen.
If they are allowed can anyone send it to me or post a link?
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Sad how uR dies because of what homing did to his textures. And it's sad that his ban was that long, although I understand that it's doubled.
Anyways, I'm done. GG dp, i'll be back soon, or not.
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lmfao he got banned cos of the barrels? LOL
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The way the bans work is that it starts at something like 30 days i think, and then doubles everytime he gets banned. so it's like 30 days --> 60 days --> 126 days. He's been banned before
Oh and the reason why you're not allowed to modify the textures is because on maps like the one shown, you could rename all textures to the same ones so whenever you saw anything that wasnt brick, you knew to shoot at it.
Maybe if you took your time to understand the context of this thread you would understand. I co-created this thread when it was originally made to convict homingbullet and wanted(boolut) of using aimbots. Therefore I know he hacked before, and that his first ban was 32 days. But really, he needs a ban..but not 4 months imo.
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Despite what some people think, I really don't like banning people. I wish people could just play fair, so I could spend my time working on making the game better rather than having to deal with the people who make the game worse. It would save a lot of time and a lot of stress. I often struggle with decisions to ban people. That's why I formed the committee to help with some of the tough decisions. In this case, I did feel the 128 day ban for modified textures might be harsh at first, but then after checking some logs and seeing that Homingbullet had modified maps and even ran ratbot again recently, I don't think it's unjustified. People get upset with me for not doing enough about cheaters, but then they get mad when they or their friends get banned for cheating.
Some games don't give you a second chance if you're caught cheating. If this was one, homing wouldn't have even had the chance to play after using an aimbot the first time. Maybe if he comes clean about where he got the modifed maps instead of acting like he doesn't even know about them, we can work out a deal on a shorter ban.
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modified maps? u mean wall hacks?? i was given wall hax still when i clanned with darkness. i never used them since the ban darkness and everyone got for walls. i never got a chance to use them i checked them out but this was what 6 months ago i don't know how long its been. but jistpoe seriously ratbot? i havnt used that crap since the ban - it makes your aim much worse... ratbot is for people who cant aim worth crap. - also jistpoe its messed up that the committee votes on how long the ban should be because they base it not on what u did but on how much they like that person which in this case didnt work out very well for me.
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That's why you don't give the people on the committee a reason to not like you.
I do remember Olbaid being on you about modified textures a couple months ago when I was in uR. I recently found out that the reason you weren't banned was because you changed the textures back and sent him that screen shot. Lying to a person is a bad way to get them to like you.
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considering jitspoe that a ban should be doubled. then it really should be 64 days if put in mind that he where banned for 32 days for their first offense.
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lol br5 i changed the ss and sent it to him? rofl? really? the hr4s i use are the ones in ss but barrels r regular colors. and do u have proof that i used these textures in a pub? or do u assume? like the committee. Also i dont kiss ass to the committee like some- thats why they dont like me they talk excrement - i give them excrement back. you kiss ass.
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In this case, I did feel the 128 day ban for modified textures might be harsh at first, but then after checking some logs and seeing that Homingbullet had modified maps and even ran ratbot again recently, I don't think it's unjustified.
Homing, you've stopped listening. Spend your 128 days cleaning off anything DP2 related from your computer. Then install a fresh version and download any maps, etc. Should be plenty of time to adequately do this. Also, please learn how to use a "."(a period), and some other usefull grammer tools. Just cause you know what you're saying doesn't mean we do.
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Interesting, Hes banned for a brick barrel. Then its said that he had used modified maps and aimbot recently hmmm. Aimbot and Modded maps are worse than brick barrels by far And that's not the basis of this ban, i'm confused, I thought all that stuff was detectable , why did it take a screenshot of brick barrels to bring out the Aimbot and Modded maps accusations, I think its a lie to make the ban look more reasonable. Me and Homing aint been so cool lately and haven't being seeing eye to eye and Me and his differences is prob reason uR faded, but I do think this ban is far to harsh. I don't think it should be a ban considering they wasn't used or atleast ban him for a couple weeks. Not current ban, its ridiculous.
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mewa i dont care about my grammer about dp rofl.
perhaps mewa you should check your grammer because im pretty sure cause is used improperly in the sentence lol BECAUSE mewa
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...jitspoe hath spoken.
give up.
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while clans that really hack dont get banned cause they got u in the committee to back your intercoursein ass.
Now that's funny.
Homing, please keep posting; you're a constant supplier of quality idiotquotes
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Now that's funny.
Homing, please keep posting; you're a constant supplier of quality idiotquotes
Every couple days I hear people say I hack. Every couple days there is logs in our priv with people saying that we hack. Every couple days I look on the forums to see if people care to report us/me. Every couple days I come to the conclusion they don't care and/or they truly believe I/we don't hack.
EDIT: Is olbaid really protecting friends? Doesn't appear that way.
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its nice to see that u guys are so easily amused.
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Locked:
This thread is going nowhere.